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Teak swim platform adhesive

1/18/21       
Scott

Ok, I have read a lot, watched a lot and thought a lot. The conclusion is I am not sure?
I need to build a swim platform for a ski boat out of teak. The swim platform will spend lots of time in the water.
I am looking for recommendations for an adhesive for this?
I was thinking of maybe a polyurethane glue or some 3m marine adhesive, just wondering if I am on the right track.
The joints will get stainless steel fasteners as well.

1/18/21       #2: Teak swim platform adhesive ...
Tom Gardiner

Boats are built with epoxy for a reason - it works. Enlist the help of a local marine supply and they will help choosing the best formulation for oily woods.

1/18/21       #3: Teak swim platform adhesive ...
Gary

Resorcinol is the strongest glue on the planet. If you go to boatbuilders forums you will find out that they still use it as the best and strongest. It is also much more resistant to UV rays from the sun.

1/19/21       #4: Teak swim platform adhesive ...
David R Sochar Member

Website: http://www.acornwoodworks.com

Resorcinol glue is what we used with teak to build replacement Chris Craft louver galley doors in the 60's and 70's. Epoxy was mostly unknown at that time.

Mixed right, kept warm, it was easily stronger than the wood. Chris Crafts were built with resorcinol. I was told it was developed to make the Spruce Goose.

The epoxy guys say "It is used to build boats". The resorcinol guys say "It is used to build airplanes". Hmm..... what about a flying boat?

1/19/21       #5: Teak swim platform adhesive ...
Scott

Thanks for the help everyone, I love this site, it is such a wealth of knowledge. I have built cabinets for over 25 years, probably 1/2 commercial and half residential, but when it comes to a lot of the specialty items like this I am in the dark. I have never heard of this glue before.
I wish we were all in close proximity and the Covid lifestyle was over, I would host a big barbecue, byob of course. Big steaks and food on me.

1/24/21       #6: Teak swim platform adhesive ...
Gary

CP Adhesives sells Aerodux Resorcinol.
It's the only glue strong enough to to be certified for building airplane propellers in Germany.

1/29/21       #7: Teak swim platform adhesive ...
Adam

Typical woodworking adhesives that are stronger than wood:
PVA, resornical, epoxy, polyurethane

100% waterproof(permanent submersion):
epoxy & resornical

Fire resistant:
resornical(only one used structurally in house construction)

Good adhesion(non structural) adhesion to oily woods(teak):
PVA, resornical, epoxy, polyurethane

Excellent adhesion to oily woods like teak with proper prep:
resornical, epoxy

Long term proven claims of successful bonding of various high load nasty environments.

resornical: beams, airplanes, boats
Epoxy: airplanes(50% of modern jets are carbon fiber/epoxy)
windmills(West System was the largest producer of the largest windmills in the world from the mid 80’s to 90’s out of fibreglass, wood, and plywood),

boats: the vast vast vast vast vast majority of wooden boats built in the last 40 years have used epoxy. Virtually no resornical since 1980.

Best proven example of epoxies superiority would be boat decks. Since the 2000’s(invented by West System in the 1980’s) has been to mill 1/4” thick panels of solid teak decking(think about the deck on a 50-100’ sailboat) vaccum bag them down to carbon/fibreglass composite decks. Only thickened epoxy holds it. The sun hammers it. It gets wet and then drys constantly. Plus it’s wood bonded to immovable composite.

Talk to a boatbuilder like me before bagging epoxy. Resornical is only better in terms of fire resistance. It’s inability to gap fill makes it a poor choice in many circumstances.

3/16/21       #8: Teak swim platform adhesive ...
Phil Member

Epoxy works great .The only thing you must do with either glue is to wash the wood joint with acetone to remove the oil .Most teak platforms were fastened with stainless as well as glued when I was in the trade.


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