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Wide Belt Sander for Veneer particle core panels

6/9/21       
Mike  Member

Is anyone using a wide belt sander for sanding 5/8-3/4" Veneer particle core panels?
We have used a stroke sander in the past but had too many issues with sanding lines not blending together.
Wondering if a wide-belt would work. Taking way too long with orbitals.
thanks

6/9/21       #2: Wide Belt Sander for Veneer particl ...
Bill

Yes, you need a segmented platen sander. Works like a charm and stains more uniformly. Depending on your volume well worth the investment.

I got a quote on a 2 head recently and it was 90K new. It was specific to my needs and your needs may be different. The benefit of a two head for veneer is that you run the heads counter rotating and it sands in one pass. The alternative is a single head and you want to sand in both directions.

Sounds like you don't have a wide belt at all so a more appropriate machine would be a two head. First head Drum, second head combination head with a segmented platen. With the second head you can sand, drum only, platen only or drum and platen. Very versatile machine. You can level doors and frame, sand hardwood, sand veneered panels.

PM me if you want details on the quote I got.

6/9/21       #3: Wide Belt Sander for Veneer particl ...
Scott

Mike,
I am not sure what your application is, or your volume, but any decent widebelt sander with a platen will work fine. I have a twin head SCM widebelt with a platen and I run veneer panels through it with no problems at all. I will stipulate that mine is 37 inches wide and the widest panel I normally use would be a fridge gable so about 26 inches wide.
I have done some 3 ft veneered doors, but I ran the blanks through first before I veneered them so they were fitted to my machine.
I would be nervous sending through 4 ft sheets straight from a wholesaler on a wider machine with out a segmented platen.

6/9/21       #4: Wide Belt Sander for Veneer particl ...
Mike D  Member

Thanks guys, very useful info. Looks like these suggestions will work for our situation.
We'd be running 1-2 kitchens through per day. So saving time and manual grunt work is the goal.
Now to convince the owner.

6/14/21       #5: Wide Belt Sander for Veneer particl ...
Pdub Member

Are you talking commodity veneer or custom laid up veneer? Commodity is so ridiculously thin now that you have to be super careful.
We just got a 2 head Viet with a standard air platen (not segmented) and send veneer through it. The machine just needs to be really dialed in, which isn't that tough to maintain.
Keep in mind that you will still be using the orbital to get rid of the scratch pattern from the widebelt.

6/14/21       #6: Wide Belt Sander for Veneer particl ...
Bill

With a segmented platen we can send commercial plywood through several times before it burns through. If you have a need to sand veneer I believe a segmented platen is worth it.

Why do you use an orbital after the wide belt? Have you done stain tests both ways?

6/14/21       #7: Wide Belt Sander for Veneer particl ...
Pdub Member

Because of the very linear scratch pattern a widebelt leaves on the surface?
If you do it right with your height setting at various grit belts, it's a very light pass with the orbital, but still necessary from my experience.

6/29/21       #8: Wide Belt Sander for Veneer particl ...
Adam West  Member

Website: http://www.surfprepsanding.com

Mike

If you look at basic machines like a drum/combi-head machine and want to sand veneer you want to be sure you buy a "dead shaft" machine with the ability to pop the drums out of the way without changing their settings. It is called air exclusion. Most Chinese and Taiwanese machines do not have this feature.

The platen MUST have the ability to pop down onto the part and up at the end. These types of plates will have either air or air bladders so they can float a bit. These can do a reasonable job.

Segmented platens are definitely the best but they cost big money.

I work with sanding machines for a living. Feel free to IM me if you need further assistance.

 

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