I am currently running 2020 for our small 5 man shop and while it is good for sales, there cutlists don't cut it for me. I make a lot of frame less casework and we do alot of weird modifications (it's not just cookie cutter boxes) I am currently trying KVD 10 and am not that impressed with the cutlists they offer. I am really looking for control over the 32mm realm especially with dowel placement and other boring options. We don't have a CNC but if business is still doing well like it is now, I expect to upgrade in 5 years. The simple fact is that I will always need 2020 with the price tag, so I don't need renderings, I need accurate cutlists and drafting abilities while keeping the price tag under 5k. What should I look at before I turn into a pumpkin with KCD?

Give Mozaik try it will give perfect cutlist, very easy to learn and use and the renderings are very good and as good as 2020 if you buy the $199 add on this way you don't have to draw the same job twice. It also allows you to go very far from cookie cutter as nothing we do is that way. Also it works great with the CNC and for the price you can't beat it. Also really think about the CNC some more. I would guess in the 5 years you wait you will make enough extra having a CNC to pay for it at least twice. If its a frameless job I have 2 guys who can run the CNC, edge band, build and hardware about 25 boxes a day without trying very hard I am sure they could do more if they tried but we don't build enough boxes to need to. Just cutting cabinet parts with dados and shelf holes and all we can process a unit of plywood in an afternoon. If ours only runs a couple hours a day it more than pays the payment in labor savings. Its also so nice to not have to work off of the 32mm system, you place hardware holes exactly where you want them and they are there every time no matter how tall, short or deep the cabinet gets.

Thanks for the info. How is pricing structured for Mozaic in terms of your cabinet configuration? i.e. sqft, volume, bdft?

I think it is like most cabinet software. You input your material and what it cost. When it calculates your cut list it knows how many sheets it will take or how many board ft. of lumber plus a waste percent that you put in the settings. This allows it to calculate your total cost of materials and hardware for the job. There are also a few different ways that you can have it price stuff. I know that doors can be priced by the sqft. I am not sure what other ways you can price cabinets because we don't use it for pricing but I know that you can.

CabinetCRUNCHER is a very powerful cut list software program (Excel spreadsheet program) that is great for custom cabinets.

https://cabinetcruncher.com