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down draft sanding tables

7/7/16       
nick

I'm in the market for a DD sanding table for sanding primer/sealer on cab parts and I'm looking for recommendations (store bought? brand? should I make one? ect...?). One man shop, average 200-300 cab parts finished per week. 110 would be ideal but I do have 220 single & 3 phase in the shop. Thank you.

7/7/16       #2: down draft sanding tables ...
kevin

have you checked out the mirka deros or similar sanders that are vacuumed? May be a better fit for your needs and the salesman will more than likely leave a unit with you to demo. We dont have any but we have demoed the mirka and i was very impressed! They do a fantastic job of capturing ALL dust.

7/7/16       #3: down draft sanding tables ...
Matt Krig Member

Mirka Deros/vacuum, a Surfprep set up AND a Sandman table (110v/220v) with lights. Make yourself a box to clean your filters that hooks to dust collection, or you'll negate the point of the downdraft table and abuse the blower motor.
If you really want a game changer and you are looking to grow significantly in the near future, (we are only a 6-10 man shop) get at least a 3 head 53" programmable sander with combi head equipped for sealer sanding. You're head will just about explode when you add up the time spent previously and when you see the finish improvements. Between pre-sanding all parts and sealer sanding, switching to paper belts and the extended abrasive life, this is one of the fastest paybacks we've had on a major macchine purchase, Not to mention the quantum leap in finish quality and overall speed gains over our old 37"- 2 head machine.
Also, the 5" mesh sanding discs when used with vacuum will last a ridiculous long time compared to the PSA discs to the point where they become dull rather than plugged.
If you haven't done so already, please take a sanding and or finishing seminar at IWF or AWFS. Sanding can make or break your profits and quality consistency.
Over-sanding is probably the bigger robbers of profit and quality in a custom shop that does a lot of finishing. Swirls, color inconsistency, cross scratch, uneven areas between dissimilar materials and polished burnished grain are the sins of woodworking and finishing.
So to answer your question, to start with, I'd buy any one of the commercially made downdraft table, it's not worth the time to make one in my opinion, as I'd rather be putting that time into growing my company. I'd continue to get a set of lights, the best sanders and vacuums money can buy. Oil your sanders daily and don't cheap out on sealers/primers, abrasives and topcoats and you'll move ahead much faster.

7/7/16       #4: down draft sanding tables ...
chris

have 2 tables from denray which i really like.

http://www.denray.com/

7/7/16       #5: down draft sanding tables ...
Nick

yes, l looked at the denray tables online as they came highly recommended by one of my customers. My local dealer (300+ miles away)has yet to get back to me with a price. but by the specs and reputation l'm guessing they're at the higher end price wise. l can get a pretty good deal on the small Baleigh table and l'm wondering how they compare...I've learned (reluctantly) that it pays to buy quality but sometimes (once in a blue moon) a bargain really is one.

7/7/16       #6: down draft sanding tables ...
herb johonson

comes down to airflow that each table has and wheter it has cheap blanket filters and final filters or whether it has cartridge or tube style filters, imho, denray makes a much beefer table,also rpm of exhaust motor

good luck
herb j

7/8/16       #7: down draft sanding tables ...
afinisher

Another vote for DenRay. Love my unit with adjustable height option. Cartridge filters provide greatest filtration of fine particles. A serious piece of equipment- well worth its price.

7/8/16       #8: down draft sanding tables ...
Nick

after seeing my customers table in action I'm sold on the DenRay machine although after getting the quote l'm still in the throws of sticker shock... My Belgian beer budget is going to take a hit.

7/10/16       #9: down draft sanding tables ...
Yusuke Heller

are the bought machines really that much better than a shop built DD table? I have been toying with the idea of building my own for some time now.

8/2/16       #10: down draft sanding tables ...
Nick

ended up not getting the denray as a customer had a almost new 1hp Delta for $400.00. It's 1/3 the machine of the denray but at 1/7 cost l couldn't pass it up. lt is working great for my application; sanding sealer and scuffing frame & panel cabinet doors and drawers (l use a festool for the larger pieces and the flats). there is noticibly less dust in the room where l sand and lots in the delta's filter.


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