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Crown to ceiling...Reveal or not?

11/21/20       
SteveL Member

I'm curious how everyone handles this. I have done both, tight and leaving a small reveal to shadow the imperfections in the ceiling.

I don't usually do the type of high $ work that would allow enough money for scribing crown. However when I go tight it seems I still find myself sanding down where the trim meets the drywall corner or tape joint, at least so it's not so embarrassing. This gets old and costs.
So I started to leave an average of 1/8" reveal and to my eye it looks a little better than the alternative but I am getting questioned on it by customers.

I also have had settling issues when the ceiling comes down and pushes the miters open. Here in the far north we have a lot of truss lift between the seasons so caulking is not something I would want to see up there even if it could be done without looking hooky.

Yes of course I should cover this scenario and many others with the homeowner before the job is installed but I never think of them all.

So how do you handle it?

11/22/20       #4: Crown to ceiling...Reveal or not? ...
Mark

I fit as tight as possible to the walls and ceiling as I can while keeping the crown "by sight" straight -that is to say, the moulding will follow the wall/ceiling but no large ,noticeable, crooks. I will get around some things with a few passes of a block plane and I don't/won't use a sander or angle grinder to fit it, too much dust and it takes too long. Then, if I can't caulk the occasional gaps with a maximum if a 3/32" bead, the builder can get the tapers back to parge out bellys and dips on the walls and ceiling.
Leaving an 1/8" "reveal" is not a good look and honestly, customers are right to question it.
You didn't make the walls and ceilings crooked, they were supplied to you that way. Explain that to them.

11/24/20       #5: Crown to ceiling...Reveal or not? ...
MarkB Member

If your dealing with truss uplift it would seem no solution other than a 2 piece prefinished crown detail (ceiling member nests over the edge of the crown) that allows some movement there though its going to show up somewhere. If your having to do scribing and they want a more stable solution the 2 piece may be an option to just offer it and include a statement in your contract that if they dont opt for the 2 piece there is no ability to deal with crown-to-ceiling issues.

While it would mean going around the cabs twice a 2 piece option would still be fast (could be real fast with a bit of ingenuity). They'd have to accept a slightly different profile but the issue of truss uplift and rolling drywall/fat/thin corners, etc...

I would either opt myself out of the responsibility in the contract or offer an alternative at an upcharge. At the same time you would want to call out an allowance of lift that is acceptable. Ive seen long span trusses crown 1/2" and there isnt many floating trim solutions that will handle that amount of movement.

You'll have to draw the line somewhere.

11/24/20       #6: Crown to ceiling...Reveal or not? ...
rescraft

Vault all the ceilings--then you don't have to worry about it!

11/24/20       #7: Crown to ceiling...Reveal or not? ...
SteveL Member

All Vaulted Ceilings...sounds good.

Mark- A 2 pc crown system would be the best for truss movement. I'm doubtful I could get my customers to sprig for it. But discussing this situation before hand is obviously something I could do to reduce the issues and leave the worry to someone else.

11/25/20       #8: Crown to ceiling...Reveal or not? ...
MarkB Member

The answer is simply a few small mockups/salesmans samples. One showing a varied/cracked/caulked joint at the top of the crown, one showing scribe with the potential for uplift, and one showing the floating option. They point to whichever they choose, initial that line on the contract, and your clean.


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