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Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute

12/29/17       
Todd Member

Our company is looking to batch a group of headboards, and here's what I'm looking for:
-able to apply in an environment with some dust
-wipe on
-ideally no scuffing between coats
-low to medium level of protection

Here's the issue: Danish oil meets all of these requirements, but test pieces all have a look that is too "wet". By this I mean dark, and this is only after two coats, which I would want to keep at a minimum.
It seems like the issue is the amount of oil, giving the wood a wet look (I've let our test pieces dry for two weeks--still undesirable look) which is why I've looked into custom made Danish oil--Sherwin Williams had no idea when I asked if they could do this, at both their commercial and wood finishing locations. I'm having a hard time finding recipes for custom DO, so I wanted to reach out and see if there's a better ratio I can follow do get a less oil up look, or an alternate brand of DO, or even a totally different product. Thanks!

12/29/17       #2: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
Matt

Buy some "stain base", basically untinted stain. Or a can that says "natural" since it likely won't have any pigment in it.

From there you can dilute the danish oil down. You probably can also try diluting some regular polyurethane, maybe add a little japan drier to it to speed up the oil's kickover.

12/29/17       #3: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
Todd Member

Thanks for the response Matt! It sounds like stain base will play well with Danish oil? The headboards are pine, so it would have the added benefit of reducing blotchiness. Would applying a stain base before DO lessen the uptake?

12/29/17       #4: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
seidoww Member

Maybe Osmo oil or wax finishes? Look into them if you haven't heard about them.

12/30/17       #5: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
rich c.

Oil finishes are hard to make a profit on unless you can add all the waiting time into the bid. There are a lot of film finishes that could mimic the look with the sheen, and that flash over in minutes. No bleed back issues, no dangerous oily rags, no wiping the dust off the drying oil.

12/30/17       #6: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
Paul Snyder  Member

Website: finishing.tips

Most solvent based finishes give the wood a "wet" look - it's the desirable effect of accentuating the wood grain and directionality that finishes provide.

If you want to avoid that look, a water-base finish is a better choice. Most don't "darken" the wood but they do need to be sprayed, not wiped.

1/2/18       #7: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
Shane

sayerlack TZL7105 in 5 gloss would be my go too product.... catalyzed poly from Sherwin Williams... It will be very close to a non "wetted" look. reduce it so it doesn't leave a thick film and it will very very "close to the wood" look
Milesi also makes an acrylic that is supposed to mimic a very low sheen and non wetted look also but I cannot vouch for that product

1/4/18       #8: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
Matt

To clarify my statement above, if you are looking for a finish that looks dryer than Danish oil, use the "natural stain base" stuff to dilute the danish oil.

Either than or dilute the danish oil with mineral spirits.

Now, you suggested that the stain base could reduce blotching, and that is indeed the case but it's used in a very different manor.

If you are using a colored danish oil, then try some samples. Wipe them down with "stain base" and allow to dry for at least 2 hours at 60-70F. Then apply danish oil. You will probably see a lighter stain color but also greatly reduced blotching.

The most "raw" look I've ever seen was cheap Minwax oil based stain, with nothing else on top. The oil in Minwax binds the color up reasonably enough that it doesn't transfer to your clothes or hands when you touch it.

1/5/18       #9: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
Tyler

Sivam supplies a 0 sheen 2k poly that is incredible. Once fully cured no one can tell that there is a finish on the wood, but it is tough as hell. My sivam supplier is Richelieu.

1/7/18       #10: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
Ron

Tyler
I can't find the 2k poly on there website.

1/8/18       #11: Less Oily Danish Oil/Substitute ...
Tyler

You'll have to call a rep they are just introducing the product now


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