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Have mohawk stains and dyes changed?

3/12/15       
Mike

My boss, who has been a finisher/refinisher for the past 35 years said that mohawk dyes and stains use to be a lot more concentrated with pigment and these days, they're so much thinner.

A finisher at work talks about a dye thats supposedly like 500.00 a gallon and theres so much concentrate that basically a cap full will equal the amount you get in a whole gallon of mohawk. How much truth is there to it and what is the name?

3/12/15       #2: Have mohawk stains and dyes changed ...
Robert Member

Sherwin Williams Ultra Concentrated Dye Stain might be the one being discussed. Its very concentrated compared to others. Sometimes a drop or two is all you need.

3/13/15       #3: Have mohawk stains and dyes changed ...
Mike

Thx. The name just clicked. It's called Keystone dyes

3/13/15       #4: Have mohawk stains and dyes changed ...
Rick Mosher  Member

Website: profinisher.blogspot.com/

We use Keystone nerosol, they are very concentrated. Sherwin Williams S61 is a similar product. Both will mix in most solvents plus water.

3/13/15       #5: Have mohawk stains and dyes changed ...
Mike

Rick, how much are keystone dyes a gallon? Can you mix the keystone dye in a mohawk wiping stain to achieve a deeper base and then shade on top?

Thx!

3/13/15       #6: Have mohawk stains and dyes changed ...
Rick Mosher  Member

Website: profinisher.blogspot.com/

I believe we pay around $140 to $170 per 8 lb container. Don't quote me on this but a little birdie once told me Keystone sells their dyes to Mohawk. We used to use Mohawk and haven't had any problems. They also make other dyes besides nerosol for different purposes.

Keystone dyes

3/13/15       #7: Have mohawk stains and dyes changed ...
Mike

Thx
Did the birdie tell you (in comparison to mohawk, how many gallons will you get out of the size container ur using, in comparison to mohawks 1gal bottle.

How many gals is a 7-8 lbs container?

Is it REALLY that concentrated?

On a typical mohawk dye job, where you may use on average of 20% mohawk dye, 70% thinner and 10% top coat to give it bite, what would your ratios be with keystone per quart ?

Im trying to see how well worth spending the extra money is

3/13/15       #8: Have mohawk stains and dyes changed ...
Rick Mosher  Member

Website: profinisher.blogspot.com/

If I remember correctly we used 8 oz of concentrate to make a gallon of the Mohawk concentrate, but it has been a while. We find the Keystone to be MUCH less expensive than the Mohawk. 8 lbs is around a gallon of concentrate. (I believe that should make about 16 gallons)

Buy a small sample size and try it out for yourself.

3/13/15       #9: Have mohawk stains and dyes changed ...
Mike Fuson

I buy my Mohawk dyes ready to spray, by the gallon. Around 38 per gallon. I wasn't aware it came any other way.

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