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Getting Top drawer front height.

1/19/16       
Nick Cook Member

Website: http://www.cedarrivercabinetry.com

Hello,

I have a customer requesting 4 inches of top drawer front height or clearance. I've already built face frames and have to use under mount slides.
My frame top opening is 5 inches and with the 9/16 I lose with the under mount slides I'm short on the 4 inches of opening height I need between the bottom of the face frame and the drawer bottom. Is hardware avail. that would give me the 4 inches? I can't use side mount and ruin my dovetail drawers. I need some way to lower the drawer box in the opening and still use an under mount.

Thanks

1/19/16       #2: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Eddie

Is the customer wants 4" inside of the drawer clearance or 4" overall outside? sorry for my stupid questions, I'm not quite understand your question. Inset or overlay?

1/19/16       #3: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Nick Cook Member

Website: http://www.cedarrivercabinetry.com

The customer wants 4 inches of clearance from the drawer bottom that they would place things in, up to the bottom of the top rail.

1/19/16       #4: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Eddie

That's a hard one Nick. I do my top face frame openings at 5" so I can use 4 1/8" drawers. The inside of 4 1/8" drawer is 3 1/4" plus +/- 1/4" clearance of the top drawer to face frame. You may get 3 1/2" tops maybe less.

1/19/16       #5: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Leo G  Member

Website: http://www.lrgwood.com

I do 5 1/4" openings and my 4 1/4" tall drawers give you a 3 1/2" interior height plus the extra 3/16" of clearance. Not 4" though.

What you are asking doesn't seem possible with the conditions you state.

1/20/16       #6: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Nick Cook Member

Website: http://www.cedarrivercabinetry.com

Thanks for the input, I came up with no solution either. Maybe recessing the under mount a bit into the bottom of the drawer? I don't think that will work. I'll have to tell the customer it's not possible with under mount slides.

Thanks

1/20/16       #7: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Leo G  Member

Website: http://www.lrgwood.com

Make the face frames over or modify the ones you have. If this was something that the customer decided after the fact, upcharge them for the process. If it was a miscommunication you may need to split or eat the mistake.

I don't know it this is a couple cabinets or a whole kitchens worth. Nor do I know the style of face frame. Standard square stock or beaded.

1/20/16       #8: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Joseph D. Christman  Member

Website: IntegrityDesignBuild.com

Is it that they want Blum Tandem slides?
It sounds like it's a mid grade product, so maybe you could make a sample with undermount full extension epoxy slides and save some $ in the process.

We always include section drawings in our shop drawings that also include drawer clearances.

1/20/16       #9: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Nick Cook Member

Website: http://www.cedarrivercabinetry.com

The customer decided after the fact, the face frames are square. What are the epoxy under mount slides. Are you referring to the kind that attach to the bottom corner?
If so I can't use those.
I'm using Blum soft close under mount and maple dovetail drawers.

1/20/16       #10: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Leo G  Member

Website: http://www.lrgwood.com

Hate to say it, but it's just a drawer. It's a mostly internal component that no one really thinks about. If she wants the height that's an option, she might just have to make a concession also. Not much of the drawer slide shows with those. It's not blatant ugly like a side mounted ball bearing slide is.

1/20/16       #11: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Nick Cook Member

Website: http://www.cedarrivercabinetry.com

Hi Leo,

This job is a 65k job already spec for under mounts. I've informed the customer that it's not possible but offered to give the height in the island, which was acceptable. Great customer with a last minute request I can't accommodate.

1/20/16       #12: Getting Top drawer front height. ...
Leo G  Member

Website: http://www.lrgwood.com

That changes it a bit. An awful lot of FFs to be change in your case. Glad you could work it out with her.

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