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Crating fees

3/26/16       
Harold

Website: http://morantzcabinets.com

I have been asked to quote some cabinets for the Caribbean. They want them crated for shipping. I have never done this before and have tried to get some basic cubic foot rate before I invest more time. Anyone have any experience in crating services or having done the crating themselves? Harold.

3/27/16       #2: Crating fees ...
rich c.

Unless you bring in some cheap help to build the crates, they cost the same hourly rate as the cabinets or furniture going into them.

3/27/16       #3: Crating fees ...
Pinetree Furniture Makers  Member

Check with the shipping company as some offer this service and they will insure them.

3/27/16       #4: Crating fees ...
Mitch Suber  Member

Website: subercustomshutters.com

Every time I have done this, it seems it ends up including my time, plus the time of a couple of my shop guys. I usually do a material and time estimate for crates, then shop around for the freight rates based on a close estimate of weight and size. Like Rich says, it ends up the crating charges should be based on the shop rates. With shutters, we have at times been able to start with a basic pallet, often some we have saved from incoming shipments. Then just build a protective box on top of that. Sorry no prices to share, usually it is a year or two between our opportunities to ship. Actually we shipped panels to the Bahamas 15 years back, and I recall the customers on the other end were extremely helpful with tips and information, as this was a very normal way for them to get products to their location. They may have a system or contacts in place to help you with this.

3/28/16       #5: Crating fees ...
Larry

We've shipped to the Virgin Islands a few times. It ended up being cheaper to pack a container and ship it that way. Less likely to be damaged also.

3/28/16       #6: Crating fees ...
John Costin

Harold --

Make sure to find out whether the crates have to be ISTM 15 stamped; most international shipments must be. This is a standard of heat-treating for the lumber components to ensure that they are insect-free. It's also called a "bug stamp" in the shipping world.

If so, find a local company that has the certificate for the stamp, and have them build the crates for you. You will not be able to do it yourself and maintain the certification. This also helps to control the cost on the crating. Maybe you could quote as "+ cost for ISTM-15 crates as required."

John Costin
Veneer Services Unlimited
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3/28/16       #7: Crating fees ...
cabmaker

This question is a little bit off topic but I will ask anyway.

A customer of mine had a villa in the Bahamas that was made out of concrete. Apparently most wood structures would be eaten by termites if you built otherwise.

As I understand it the cabinets were built without backs as this provided a nest for the bugs.

Do your cabinets need to be made of any special material to account for this kind of problem?

3/28/16       #8: Crating fees ...
Mark

If I am not mistaken composites such as OSB or Plywood are exempt from ISTM15.

3/28/16       #9: Crating fees ...
Tom C

Hi Harold
We did a large job in the Bahama's on the Island of Eleuthera this past year.
A Private home in the middle of nowhere.
We are in NJ where the architect is from,that's how we got it.
Most of the job was Cypress or Mahogany.
All interiors were 3/4" Maple Prefin ply.
We even had the granite for the kitchen vanities,bar,& cabana shipped.

While we did not have to handle the transport to the island, we did have
the customer get 2 -20 ft shipping containers dropped off in front of my shop.

That took us 3 weeks to load and secure. Then a crane loaded them on a custom flatbed truck to the Port of Fort Lauderdale.

At the port Seacor Shipping took over Customs and all. Putting it on their boats and getting it to the Island port.
A local Island trucker (The only one on the island )... took it the job site 40 miles south from there. Took about only 2 weeks to get there.

When we got word that they were onsite and all the import taxes and custom duties $$$$ were paid,
2 of us flew down for 3 weeks of install ,sun & Kalik beer.
The once in a lifetime job....


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3/29/16       #10: Crating fees ...
John Costin

Mark is correct. Plywood, OSB, etc... are exempt from ISTM 15, the idea being that the heat they are subjected to in the manufacturing process will kill any critters. So if your crates can be all plywood, that route is open.

When we faced this issue recently we bought bug-stamped crates from a local shipping company and I was happy with the price. YMMV!

John Costin
Veneer Services Unlimited
vsu@gwi.net
(207)985-7221
Custom Veneered Components for the Woodworking Industry

2/22/22       #11: Crating fees ...
Timmy Evans Member

I usually do a material and time estimate for crates, then shop around for the freight rates based on a close estimate of weight and size.

 

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