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Time To Replace Mozaik??

7/1/24       
Akram Member

Website: http://www.americanvisioncabinets.com

Mozaik gone creasy, price is doubled in less than 2 years,
We start previously around $125 per month and since it was acquired by Cyncly, price increases 40 to 50 per year,
Last year we finally arrived to $195 but tonight I got the contract renewal with the new increase $220.
And it is not only me who start getting dissatisfied with this contentious price increase.

https://slashdot.org/software/p/Mozaik/

They do not tell the actual pricing to the customers till now on their web site, the snap shot showing the old pricing and not showing the future pricing and this is Not nice.
Paying $2600 per year, with potential 13% increase every year or more that totals cabinet vision in about 8 years. Honestly I do not know what is cost of any other software around .
But I guess it is the time to find and explore any other software.
Does anyone please give some info for any alternative software can work with cnc and label system? And it will be Purchase option no more lease.
Any software that can replace Mozaik please feel free to contact me.
Thank you in advance.


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7/3/24       #4: Time To Replace Mozaik?? ...
Jeff

I believe that Mozaik is still the lowest cost option. We switched from Mozaik to Microvellum about a year ago. Its been very good for us, but we needed more capability than what Mozaik offered.

As a point of reference, Microvellum was roughly $50k up front, and we do own the software, but in order to have access to updates and technical support, we have a maintenance contract for about $5k annually.

7/3/24       #5: Time To Replace Mozaik?? ...
Rob

Try ecabs by thermwood. It's free.

7/4/24       #6: Time To Replace Mozaik?? ...
Karl E Brogger  Member

Website: http://www.sogncabinets.com

Cabinetvision is only like $40k for a single seat and a post. The maintenance contract is only a couple thousand a year too.

7/6/24       #7: Time To Replace Mozaik?? ...
Kevin

50K.... fucc that, and all these software companies!

7/9/24       #8: Time To Replace Mozaik?? ...
Karl E Brogger  Member

Website: http://www.sogncabinets.com

You used to be able to purchase mozaik. I'm not sure if that's still an option.

I like the subscription method for this. Mostly because I might pull the pin and go get a real job at any moment

8/1/24       #9: Time To Replace Mozaik?? ...
Quicktrim

Ha !
There is no low cost option. Mozaik does good for the price in my opinion. However I have guys that I know running Microvellum from 2012 still and have no issues and haven't paid since 2012. I think if Microvelum can be purchased one time and you don't need to pay maintanance unless you want to it may be the way that I go in the future. The features it has now would do most everything I would need till I retire and if they had some massive update I wanted I could cough up the 5 k or whatever and just upgrade every five years or so.

I get it for small cabinet shops the price increase sucks, but we all knew that was gling to happen. The value of our homes have doubled in the last 5 years so how can other things not cost more?

I'm with Karl, I may ditch at any time so why pay a bunch one time, monthly is ok by me. Just pass on the cost in your product.

When I started my shop I gave all my install contacts to my brother. Now he makes 1600 - 2100 a day installing cabients for them by himself with a 35.00 an hour helper who come in a few days a week to help move the big pantries and large items into place. He makes 5000-8000 a week. His insurance is 1800.00 a year and mine is 16000.00 my shop is 125000.00 per year, each employee is 68000 per year. He has no shop or overhead other than insurance. He just bought a 1.2 million dollar propperty. I still rent and can't afford to buy a house or my own shop. I cashflow around 1.7 million a year but don't make enough on paper to own anything. I bought all machinery with cash from selling my house so no machinery payments.

I think I can buy a building in 18 months if I claim no deductions and skimp by on the nescessties to show more money on paper. I work 80 hours a week and am 47. I do seriously question if I F'd up royally going this direction. I will see if my idea of being a cabinet shop owner was a fools errand or a good descision in the next two years. If I am not paying down my own building by then I am out.

LOL - nice rant huh

8/19/24       #10: Time To Replace Mozaik?? ...
Shahn Member

I believe Mozaik is still a cheapest option!

 

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