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Need Help with a problem10/17
I am working for a shop That is unsafe.
Several options I'd think-
But what I'd do is offer to come in on a weekend and fix things if he will supply the materials. I think that is your best option if in other aspects he is a good boss. I personally wouldn't do the second option, but I understand there are circumstances that do require that on occasion.
You mentioned some dangerous issues regarding the electrical in the shop. This is my gut reaction.
You said that you have talked to him about what could happen. What did he say? From your post, I gather that he does not want to spend money to fix things and nothing will change. I would find a new place to work before I was the one who was electrocuted from the faulty equipment. I also do not want to ever watch someone else being zapped.
If it were me, my family needs me alive more than he needs me to work there. Sorry to be blunt. Some safety issues are just not acceptable. Life is short enough. No need to risk it being even shorter.
PS: If he is a "good person" then he would not risk the lives of the people who work for him.
Whether or not you want to try to educate him is up to you. Obviously I do not know all of the dynamics of the situation. This is just my opinion based on what you posted and my personal feelings. Good luck!
I wouldn't work in a place that wasn't safe. My life matters more to my family that the pay check does. If you have owned your own shop you have experience and with the job market now you shouldn't have hard time finding another job. Even if you have to take a slight pay cut.
I am 100% making assumptions here but I bet if he won't spend money to fix things he is also not spending money to advance or grow the shop. What kind of new machinery is in place? Are you running a CNC router or a edge bander? If he isn't making advancements in the shop and or trying to grow the business, you personally don't have a lot of room to grow. Our employees know that our shop is growing even after 35 years. As the shop grows and makes more money then they do also. I have a couple of guys who are on track to come into the office and do design work as the business grows to the point that it is needed and we are getting close to at least having one of them spend part time in the shop and part in the office. If I were you I wouldn't want to work in a place that wasn't going anywhere.
Thanks for responding everyone.
Good on you for being pro-active with safety.
Without knowing all the factors. Your safety and that of others is PARAMOUNT and needs to be addressed ASAP.
You have attempted to address it already in a diplomatic way. It sounds like it's time for a difficult conversation and an ultimatum. Safety or I go.
What about if you said that if he gave you 2-3 hours a week to address safety you would throw in 1 hour overtime free to dedicate to safety improvement until the shop is at an acceptable safety standard.
Maybe a couple of workmates would do the same and you would have it sorted in no time.
If he isn't open to something like that I would leave and find someone who respects your dedication and livelihood.
Being a business owner I can understand that if everyone in the shop is eating ramin to let this go but just long enough to get enough money to get these safety items fixed. This should be first priority. Yes I do have to admit I and am sure a few of the other readers have been there too but not willingly. Sometimes these things fall through the cracks in running the business day to day but you have made the owner aware so he should take the steps to rectify the situation The comments here of people volunteering your time I feel are way off base. My responsibility as an employer is to ensure a safe work place and pay for time served. You are truly a gentleman and conscientious employee if you will spend from your own pocket to repair your bosses machines. I do hope you are reimbursed for your trouble.
Well I tried, He did nothing about fixing the unsafe electric or anything else. What he did do was laugh. Yes he says he has a money problem so I was working at a very low rate so he could catch up. All I asked was the fix the major things. 220 3 phase switch Open to workers and myself. No heat, Very few lights were working.
The Two Truths of Interpersonal Relationships:
Your boss will not change unless forced, then he will make those around him miserable. Your only choice is to leave. Just do so on your terms.
I have had some bad bosses. One was committed - could not work because his family had him treated for 'nervous breakdown'. Another went to jail for price fixing. Most were racist.
You should document everything you can in writing. Then take pictures of violations. When the boss sees you taking photos, he will probably fire you then.
When you go to collect unemployment (it is your money!), if they balk, show photos and written list of problems. If he appeals, stand your ground.
Don't know what part of the country you are in but if you are in the St Louis area, I would definitely like to see if you would like to join my team. I have one person working for me who is over 80.
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Hi Puzzleman, I live on long Island in about the center which is part on New York State.