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cutting veneer

10/10/18       
Scott

I have read quite a bit about this subject and I have seen it discussed on different forums, but I was wondering if anyone has come up with something new.
I want to cut veneer , nothing longer than for a 8 ft sheet. I was planning on using a sled on the sliding table saw. I think this will work, but was wondering if others have experimented with different types of blades as far as teeth angle, etc?
I also saw a video of a Festool track saw being used, I don't own one, but I imagine it would give similar results to a sliding saw.
One other method I was wondering about was using a cnc, has anyone tried this,I was thinking of placing the veneer between two strips of plywood and running the cnc up both sides?
If anyone has any other methods that work please let me know.

I thought about getting an older Guillotine as I have seen a couple come up for sale, but that were massive in both foot print and weight, I don't think I have the space for one and even though it was cheap to buy, the moving costs were a fortune.

10/10/18       #2: cutting veneer ...
Jared Emery

I also don't have a long guillotine. I cut veneer on the table saw, then clamp the veneer stack between a couple pieces of 1/2" MDF and either run on the jointer or flush trim with a sharp router bit.

10/11/18       #3: cutting veneer ...
Dan Cook

Basically what you need to do to veneer is clamp it with enough pressure along the entire length so that it acts like solid wood again. Once you do that you can cut it with a saw, router, or other. We made a machine that we use which does that and we can cut veneer without any tearout and ready to seam together without any further prep. The problem is getting the pressure right at the place where you are cutting and the pressure must be uniform across the whole length of the cut.

10/11/18       #4: cutting veneer ...
Scott

Thanks for the info so far, just wondering how many pieces are you cutting at the same time to give you the best results on standard thickness veneer?

10/11/18       #5: cutting veneer ...
Dan Cook

We usually cut from 1-10 leaves at a time. We can do more but that usually serves our needs.

10/11/18       #6: cutting veneer ...
Pat

The tracksaw method works well. The track holds the veneer flat and the Festool ones have replaceable anti-tearout strips that produce a flawless cut. Not to mention that the tracksaw is one of the greatest tools ever invented for cabinetmakers. Get one!

10/11/18       #7: cutting veneer ...
eric z

we use the method described in this video and it works well for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93ElgjF9oFw

for a larger volume it would be slow + tedious but for the scale of work here it is sufficient!

while you are looking into track saws i highly recommend the mafell machines- IMO superior in every way to festool. but if you are using a track saw for the first time the festool won't disappoint.

10/11/18       #8: cutting veneer ...
Dave L

Stacking between 1/4" MDF sheets, gluing the sandwich ends, using a 80 tooth TCG blade and walking/feeding the stack with pressure next to the blade works really well, better than any routed or jointed edge.

Seam Cutting

10/11/18       #9: cutting veneer ...
Matt Calnen

Not trying to hijack the topic, but the festool 55 I’ve been using can’t cut a 45 degree bevel cut, and I wonder if I’m doing something wrong. I even questioned the rep at the local hardware store and he couldn’t get three different 55’s to cut a straight 45 degree bevel cut. I think it has something to do with the no slip bottom cushion pushing the center of the guide up in the middle, and the clamps holding the ends down tight. Has anyone else had this issue? I recently made a cabinet with metered outside corners and had to use my old porter cable to cut the joint. Just wondering

10/11/18       #10: cutting veneer ...
rich c.

It would be nice to know how much veneer you are going to process before recommending machinery.

10/12/18       #11: cutting veneer ...
Scott

Rich, that is a valid question, I won't be cutting a lot, but when I do cut it I do want an excellent cut.
I thought about a track saw, but thought it is quite a bit of money to have collecting dust all the time when I am not using it.

10/12/18       #12: cutting veneer ...
BradS

I added a link below for a nice jig for a slider. I made something similar and I use one of Mac Campsure's Air Tight clamps at each end.

What Dan said is very important. I did not use a heavy enough clamp board on my jig and I occasionally I can see a small chip because the pressure at the middle of the leaves is too low. Another important point is zero clearance.

A jig can be much less than the one below, but it needs to be light and handy. For a long time I used a two part jig made from MDF scrap. It was a terrible to load into place.

http://www.veneersystems.com/index.php/action/item/id/266/prevaction/cat
egory/previd/14/prevstart/0/

10/12/18       #13: cutting veneer ...
rich c.

If you are worried about a track saw collecting dust, don't even think about a guillotine.

 

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