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Press-in hinge insertion without a press

4/9/19       
Bryan Member

So I checked the wrong box on my Conestoga door order and all of my doors came prepped for press-in hinges. I do not have a press. I used a mallet to insert one and the door cracked a bit at the hole. So then I purchased the $80 Blum knock-in tool.....I cracked a second door. Is there a special technique to use to do this without cracking doors? Any advice? Thanks in advance

4/9/19       #2: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
Matt

I don't know what hinges you are using but the Salice hinges I use come in both press-in and Rapido styles.

The Rapido uses the same 5mm holes as the press-in types but have a cam that you do a 1/2 turn with a pozi screwdriver to lock it in place. It's a beautiful thing.

If you can do that, great..... maybe return the knock-in hinges if possible. you'll thank yourself when done.

4/9/19       #3: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
Daniel H

buy blum insertas for this job and be done with it.

4/10/19       #4: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
james e mcgrew  Member

Website: mcgrewwoodwork.com

Blum inserta

4/10/19       #5: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
Tom

I've knocked in quite a few hinges by hand and never cracked one .Is it possibly an applied moulding type door and your stile is not laying flat against the work bench ?

4/10/19       #6: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
MarkB Member

Push them in with your drill press?

4/10/19       #7: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
Ryan

Blum inserta hinges are the way to go. That is all we use. We have a Blum press but in the past when we have used the press in type the guys would rather just tap them in with a hammer. Just tap do not hit them. It takes several small taps to get them in.

4/10/19       #9: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
D Brown

If I can't use the hinge machine to press the hinges in I use a piece of hardwood maybe 2" X 24" flip it on edge and press down to seat the hinge not hitting anything no breakage.

4/10/19       #10: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Before an answer can be given we really would need to know if Bryan's hinges are the "long arm" Euro style or compact style face frame hinges.

If they are the compact style then the really only solution would be to take care when knocking them in. Neither Blum nor Salice offer the compact style in a Rapido, Logica, Expando or Inserta fixing....screw-on or dowel only on the compacts.

It may be a little time consuming but one other solution might be to carefully knock in the dowels first into the 8mm holes then screw the hinge to the dowels. I'm thinking this would reduce the chances of splitting the door.

You can buy loose dowels (and dowel screws) then buy the hinges in the screw-on version separately.

Best of luck

Dennis


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4/10/19       #11: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
Bryan Member

Thanks for all the comments. Here is a pic of the cracks I'm experiencing. I am using Blum compact hinges which is what is specified in my contract, so changing hinges may be problematic. I will try the "push" method mentioned above.


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4/10/19       #13: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
pkd

bryan why don't u just un screw the dowels form the hinge . Tap in the dowels, push in the hinge and secure with the screws.
simple solution. I Do it this way from time to time.

4/10/19       #14: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
rich c.

How much paint do you have in the holes?

4/10/19       #15: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
Bryan Member

Thanks again guys. I think I have a technique that seems to work now. Kind of a combination of pushing it in with a wood block and then finishing with a mallet.

Conestoga bored the holes before painting. This seems like a bad idea to me as the holes get a little smaller. I can't know if that caused the cracks, but it is my current theory. I can guarantee that I won't make this ordering mistake again.

Again....thanks. This group is great.

Bryan

4/11/19       #16: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
rescraft

So you were installing with the dowels still
attached? As said, remove, install dowels, screw in hinge.

4/11/19       #17: Press-in hinge insertion without a ...
Oggie Member

I used cheap manual arbor press from HarborFreight (around $50) to press in the plastic dowels first (one by one) and then screw the hinges as usual. Never had any problems with that. Just make sure you put something underneath the doors when pressing to avoid scratching the door surface while under the press.

https://www.harborfreight.com/1-ton-arbor-press-3552.html


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