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Inset door hinge that clears opening completely

10/28/20       
Peter M.

Hey folks, we have a design we are working on where we need a door hinge that works in an inset configuration that will allow a pullout at close proximity to the edge of the face frame. Our face frame is flush with the cabinet side wall. I was kinda shocked to hear that Blum does not make a hinge like this. Have any of you found an alternate hinge source that will allow an 7/8" thick inset door to open completely clear of the door opening? Open to suggestions...

Pete

Pete

10/28/20       #2: Inset door hinge that clears openin ...
Keith Newton

Assuming you have room to open them all the way back, you may need to drop back to something older than the euro type like butt or knife hinges, like in the link.

Solid Brass Precision Small Box Hinges

10/28/20       #3: Inset door hinge that clears openin ...
Leo G Member

The Blum 155 no protrusion hinge won't work for you?

10/29/20       #5: Inset door hinge that clears openin ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Gentlemen,

Put your thinking caps on for a moment. What you are asking is impossible for an inset door with any hinge brand. The door would have to first open, then somehow magically move forward, then sideways (7/8+) to clear the opening.

Spacing the slides, with something like the Century Components X-Bracket, for the rollouts to clear the door would be your only (reasonable) option. Building a faux-inset design may be another option.

Best of luck,

Dennis Bean
Salice America

10/29/20       #6: Inset door hinge that clears openin ...
D Brown

Would a 175 degree euro hinge work ?

10/29/20       #7: Inset door hinge that clears openin ...
Peter M.

Thank you for the comments, I had considered the zero protrusion non bore hinge but had not done an inset thick door setup this way. I have not looked at the 175 degree hinge but I will. I spoke again to Blum and they said that the only way to make it work is with the straight arm 71B9550 euro hinge and the 173H7100 zero plate in a reverse configuration with the cup machined 7mm back on the cabinet face frame/sidewall to edge of 35mm hole, and the plate mounted on the door 37mm from the edge of the door to the screw holes apparently. I have ordered these hinges and will make a quick mock up to see how it works/looks. Aside from that our only other option is some of the sugatsune mortised adjustable concealed hinges like the HES3D-70DC or similar which are like the tectus style door hinges only smaller. We have ordered a set of these now and will see which works and looks better. Open to any further options as we have to fix this issue before we can install these cabinets. Thank you for the assistance.

Pete

10/29/20       #8: Inset door hinge that clears openin ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

I would agree that putting the hinge in backwards would work. I have seen this done on some individual pieces of furniture but never an entire kitchen.

11/1/20       #9: Inset door hinge that clears openin ...
jonathan mahnken

Website: http://www.mahnkencabinets.com

I think Leo has it on this one. ive done this many times with 13/16 doors...

11/4/20       #10: Inset door hinge that clears openin ...
Peter M.

Thanks guys, we are waiting on delivery of the sugatsune and will be mocking up a solution. This is not for a kitchen it is just two cabinet doors in a sort of strange setup but we still need to get it right.

Pete

 

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