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Pullout pantry atop countertop using Fulterer slide

8/30/21       
Gene Davis

Here are concept images of something we want to do. A 37w x 18.5d x 54h cabinet sits atop the counter, and has twin pullout shelf units.

The Fulterer slides are used. Pic attached.

The pullout has a back, top, deck, and three shelves. Joints are lock dado to the back, and to the door, we propose to use Hafele Rafix KD/RTA connectors.

Pullout shelves are all about 16x16. The pullout (not its door front) is about 49" high.

The pullout will rely on the Fulterer slide assembly, bottom full ex slide, and top trolley, to keep it from racking.

If you have experience with something like this, tell us what we can expect with this arrangement, and the Fulterer hardware.


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8/30/21       #2: Pullout pantry atop countertop usin ...
Gene Davis

Additional images attached.

We design with Chief Architect, and do the cabs fab using eCabinets, sending the cutting to a CNC shop.


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8/31/21       #3: Pullout pantry atop countertop usin ...
Thomas Gardiner

I have not used that particular brand of pull out slide hardware but have done something similar. I was not impressed with the performance of the slides. I found there was too much side play. Door fronts would rub when closing.
Lately I build pull outs with Hettich undermount slides for each tray attached to a false front upon which the door is mounted.

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Tom Gafgen

This picture shows how I do my base pull outs . It requires 4 undermount slides but that costs less than the fluterer unit , offers adjustment and the construction is as simple as drawer boxes and roll outs .
Also allows much better access to the items on the shelves and you don't have to pull out such a heavy load every time you open the door.


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8/31/21       #5: Pullout pantry atop countertop usin ...
Tom Gafgen

Those two bottom drawer boxes are attached to the door.

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Leo G Member

I've done some of my tall pullouts with two slides, one on the bottom and one on the top - opposite sides so they balance out.

You have to play some games on the upper slide but it works well.

The video shows a pantry that has 4 slides and a Blum Servo. Eventually it had a back on one side since the pantry was against a wall and many adjustable shelves.


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9/1/21       #7: Pullout pantry atop countertop usin ...
Adam

Gene,

I’ve got the ideal example for you. This pic is from a kitchen I designed & built in 2005. I used the Fulter slide. It was their heavier duty full extension slide. It cost about $200 back then.

That’s a 10’ ceiling the cabs are about 9’. I added the built up crown later. Its 24” wide x oven deep. Those are typical 5/8” dovetail drawers held together with a 3/4” maple ply frame. The whole kitchen is beaded ff & inset doors. I never adjusted it after install. I went back to that house 10 years later and it was still perfect.

I just took a pic of a real photograph, hence the odd border.

Those slides get 2 thumbs up


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9/1/21       #8: Pullout pantry atop countertop usin ...
Gene Davis

Thank you Adam! That is exactly the info I was seeking. We can move forward with confidence now.

9/1/21       #9: Pullout pantry atop countertop usin ...
Adam Spees


I was very pleased with how it came out. It was a bit of a gamble. I had never seen someone do it like that. Likewise, I had never used the slides and none of my buddies had either.

I screwed the drawers in with 8 screws per side. You could move one drawer at a time and refasten it. We never bothered. Because its oven deep and tall there is a ton of storage. Make sure the customer keeps the heavy cans on the bottom shelves. I think I spaced the shelves cereal box distance apart.(lol)

I figured worse case scenario if it didn't work, I could mount each drawer with full extensions and hinge the door.

Good luck with yours

 

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