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Thick Butcher Block Countertop

2/9/22       
Jim

Looking for fabrication suggestions for Thick Butcher Block Countertop with edge grain construction suggestions
Approx dimensions of 30"W x 86"L with 30"W x 42"H waterfall ends in 2 inch finish thickness on exterior covered patio
I would likely glue this from 8/4 Spanish Cedar solids
Glue? TB2 or other?
The other is interior Premium Frame Alder in 6" Thickness set on corner posts with no apron. One end sits on stone countertop and neither are captured and free to expand/contract as needed
Honeycomb core ? Torsion box?
I've done a handful of hard maple, alder and mesquite in 1 3/4" thickness with no problems, but nothing approaching the 6 inch thickness
Warnings, pitfalls, suggestions welcome
Thanks Jim

2/10/22       #2: Thick Butcher Block Countertop ...
RichC

Good Lord, could you open for issues with that!!! Covered patio where? With all that gluing and then throwing in a miter joint, what could go right is a more simple question that what could go wrong.

2/10/22       #3: Thick Butcher Block Countertop ...
Jim

Wow...
Hence the posts looking for fabrication suggestions
I'm not married to mitering the waterfall ends on the outdoor bar top, but it will be in some form, two verticals and the top
Considered a loose sliding dovetail joint to join the verticals and top
My first choice was stone, but then, I'm not the architect, just the cabinet maker, so out of my pay grade

2/10/22       #4: Thick Butcher Block Countertop ...
Jim

As far as the interior top I'll likely just glue it up from 10/4 x 6 1/4 boards, surface it and call it a day
It's drawn that way and not captured anywhere, so it's free to move around

2/10/22       #5: Thick Butcher Block Countertop ...
Jim

In answer to your question as to where- NE Texas
Not exposed to rain or direct sunlight at all

2/11/22       #6: Thick Butcher Block Countertop ...
Thomas Gardiner

I have hundreds of western red cedar exposed to sun and rain on yurts throughout North America glued with Type 2 pva. They take a beating if they are getting direct sun but I haven't had a single call about a glue failure. Years ago when I thought tung oil was an appropriate finish I would find that the glue line would swell when the finish was applied. It didn't seem to affect the joint integrity.
The waterfall mitre should not be an issue in my opinion. I would reinforce it with a double row of biscuits at least or dominoes.
Do your research on the finish. I think it will be the highest risk of call back for this job. I don't have any recommendations but there was a thread not long ago about finishing outdoor teak furniture that had a good discussion about options.

2/11/22       #7: Thick Butcher Block Countertop ...
Allen Chalifoux

How are you going to cut the miter on 6" thick material?

2/11/22       #8: Thick Butcher Block Countertop ...
Jim

Thanks for the responses
Ive considered using the dominoes across the miter joint
Have some concerns about the tip opening up though, and end grain miter is my least favorite joint
The outdoor top with the waterfall ends is 2 inches thick, so mitering that is no problem with the track saw if I choose to
The interior countertop is just a 6inch thick top with square edge all around, edge glued from 8 or 10/4 boards
I'll probably have a harder time cutting it to size than mitering the 2 inch top

 

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