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Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin nailers?

9/14/23       
Matt

Seems that I cannot find a reliable cordless 23 gauge pin nailer. I know this is fairly new technology but they all seem to be problematic.

We've tried 3 of the Grex GCP650 that use the gas charge, and all of them failed in 6 months in different ways. None of them needed a driver rebuild. Seems like trigger issues and internal problems.

I have a Milwaukee 12v pin nailer that is barely used that now won't even set the head of the nail or shoot consistently.

All we do with them is run prefinished crown and similar trim in kitchens. We are cabinet makers, not trim carpenters, so it's not like we shoot pins all day, every day.

We currently have 4 teams of installers out working on some large multi-family installs, and will be needing a half dozen good cordless pin nailers soon, has anyone found guns that are reliable?

I'm OK doing driver rebuilds and such, that's part of the game. We keep Grex rebuilds in-stock in our shop for our pneumatic nailers. The problems we're having with these seem to be lousy engineering. Not normal wear.

9/14/23       #2: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Matt

By the way it's worth mentioning, the only nails we use are Grex brand nails since most of my nailers are Grex brand. We don't cheap out on the nails, that's always a mistake. But if there's a better brand nail, I'm all ears to hear about it please!

9/14/23       #3: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Pat Gilbert Member

Ryobi, not Makita YMMV

9/14/23       #4: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Ken Member

And what does Grex say about this? I'm a pneumatic Grex user, 23 and 21, no way will I go cordless, you've made my case for that.

9/14/23       #5: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Leo G

So far I've had good luck with the Milwaukee. But it's only have a couple of racks of nails go through it. I think I've charged the battery 3 times.

9/15/23       #6: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
yavuz Member

Milwaukee. 1.25 inches grex nails. The best there is so far.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Tl5Ls6XyoCg?si=eYKfA62VgjqKoNrl

9/15/23       #7: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Hen Bob Member

My installer has the Dewalt one and it works well. But he only uses the Grex nails

9/15/23       #8: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
tracy nauman Member

I have the Milwaukee 15 ga finish nailer, 18 ga pin nailer and the 23 ga micro pin nailer. All have worked well for me. My 23 ga pins do not have heads on them. Do they make a 23 gauge pin with heads? If they did I would use them more often. The 23 gauge nailer and headless pins do not seem to hold very well for me. I am happy with all the cordless guns from Milwaukee. I also enjoy not loading or unloading the compressor and not having a hose to deal with. Except for the Miter saw and table saw I am completely cordless.

9/15/23       #9: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Chris

Makita worked for about 1/2 day, returned to Home depot. We will stick with Grex, hose, & a compressor for now.
Good luck to you, it seems technology has not caught up with the pin nailers so far.

9/15/23       #10: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Leo G

If you want the 23ga pins to hold better you need to put them in at an angle not straight. And if take your gun and angle it left, shoot and then angle right and shoot you make a V or and X pattern with the nail and it's much harder for the wood to slip over the nail.

If you want a headed small pin they make a 21ga nail, but of course you'll need the 21ga gun to shoot them.

Soft woods won't hold the 23ga pins as well as a hardwood will.

9/17/23       #11: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Bozzy Member

We install lots of laminated apartment entrance doors on new high rises and Milwaukee 12v 23g seems to last the longest for a cordless. They seem to last between 5,000-20,000 nails, depending on the installer. Still a far cry from pneumatic, but it's cheaper than dragging a compressor around.


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9/17/23       #12: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Hen Bob Member

If I have to shoot more than a few nails this is the way to go. Weighs nothing, small and quiet.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Senco-1-Gal-1-2-HP-Portable-Electric-Air-Compressor-PC1010/100615090

9/18/23       #13: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Matt

Yeah Bob you're right about that little Senco, I've used them a time or two on jobsites but they weren't my own compressor. We may have to go that route at some point.

9/18/23       #14: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Leo G

I've had that little PC1010 Senco for more than a decade. It's my go to compressor if I'm just shooting 16ga and under. On the bigger guns it'll run a lot because the tank is small but it's pretty quiet. It's small, light and won't blow any breakers.

9/22/23       #15: Most reliable cordless 23 gauge pin ...
Jonathan Mahnken

I followed Pat's recommendation and went with a Ryobi. I've shot two or three boxes of 3/8 pins through it. one Grex the other Senco. Occasionally I will shoot 1" pins. This gun is two years old now and still going. I'm so glad I don't have to deal with compressors and hoses. I will say that if I were a trim carpenter shooting tons of pins and nails, I would be using air operated guns. The electrics are only good for light duty cabinet installation. In the shop we still use all air operated guns.

 

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