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Concealed bi-fold hinges


We need to build a re-tractable bifold door. We've been directed to use HAWA Concepta hardware from Hafele company.

We have the concepta part in our building but now need a way hinge the bi-fold door.

Does anybody know of any kind of hinge other than a piano hinge to make this happen? Would like some ability to adjust the second door later if needed. Not a big fan of Soss hinges either.

Any suggestion for something that might also have adjustment?

5/4/15       #2: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...

Stay in the Hafele family. Hinge is called Aximat Hafele part # is 343.91.600

5/4/15       #3: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...

Doug has provide the perfect bi-fold door hinge solution but the Concepta from Hafele is also available as a bi- folding Concepta.

5/4/15       #4: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
AzFred  Member

This link to a hinge that is made specifically for the application that you have. The hinge will be on the "inside" of the door. Available from local distributors stock nationwide or call the manufacturer for a distributor location.

Bi-Fold hinge with detents

5/4/15       #5: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
Woodworkers Hardware


The above hinge from Selby has been a really good seller for us. The one trick with these hinges depends on how much space you have available in your pocket. The hinge will leave a gap of 9/16" between the doors.

Bi-Fold hinge

5/7/15       #6: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
Josh Member

I typically will use a mortise hinge in between the doors to allow adjustment vertically and horizontally. If door opposite of Hawa doesn't need to ride on upper running guide I would look into Accuride retractable hardware. It is significantly cheaper and provides same function.

5/7/15       #7: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
door shop guy

Dont forget Hettitch.

5/8/15       #8: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
Mark Vierno

I just saw this. I have no idea who the manufacturer is, but I would find out before paying $21.00 per hinge! :0


Folding Door Hinge

5/8/15       #9: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
door shop guy

Mark Vierno...

That is the Hettitch i was talking about...Heres the thing...only amatures and hobbiests shop at Rockler for hardware. Never buy hardware at Rockler! I get those from my lumber supplier for about $1.50 per hinge.

5/8/15       #10: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...

Mark, I interpret those hinges from Rockler as being $44 a pair.

That actually seems kind of cheap when you consider the flipper door hardware part from Hafele was over $1700 per door !!!

5/8/15       #12: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...

The Bi-folding Concepta is rather expensive but the regular Concept 25 is not so bad considering what it does and how well it does it. The Aximat bi-folding door hinge from Hafele is hands down the best solution for controlling bi-fold doors. Discussing these other hinges is mostly a waste of time. If you have a cabinet door which is 1" thick or less and under 60" high and 24" wide, absolutely go to a much less expensive Accuride Flipper Door hardware. If you have a large door and you don't want it to sag or malfunction ever, than spend the money and get the Concepta from Hafele.

5/8/15       #13: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
Tim Schultz

Flipper doors in general are something that should banished from the face of the planet. In theory they do actually perform as advertised but in practice they don't perform at all. Ninety five percent of their life they are in retracted position because they are a pain in the ass to drive.

Flipper doors take training. You have to teach your client to only pivot the door when the hardware extension is a it's apex. If you start to close the door sooner than that then most will break at that joint, even the HAWA. While you can train your client you can't train the client's friends or the new cleaning service or anybody else that want's to be helpful.

Better instead to counsel your customer. Let them know that their friends have TV sets also (they just don't talk about it).

Optimize cabinet design for the best function and appearance during the 95% part of the day, not the day you need to impress someone who shouldn't be in your inner sanctum anyway. Send your customers a link to a decent screen saver that will turn the TV set into performance art instead.

5/9/15       #14: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
Mark Vierno

Door shop guy,

Here’s the thing…I never said buy it from Rockler, but find out the manufacturer [then source it wholesale]. The exclamation mark and the mouth open emoticon were there to show my shock at the price.

So now that you have confirmed that it is a Hettitch hinge, could you please give us a model number? I spent 10 minutes on their website and couldn’t find it. Also, I would love to know where you are getting them for a $1.50 per hinge. My experience with Grass, Blum and Salice is that these specialized hinges are generally somewhere around $5-8 apiece in small quanities.


5/9/15       #15: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
Mark Vierno


Their $42.00 per pair on their retail site, but when I purchase hinges wholesale, they're sold by the piece so Rocklers price would be the $21.00 that I mentioned. I tried to make it easy for everyone to price compare, but I guess I just made it confusing.


5/9/15       #16: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
door shop guy

I do apologize i do not keep myself up to date with all the icons and such...didnt even notice it. For the most part i live in a cave.

My Hettitch book is from 2006 and to be honest here it has been at least 3 years since i bought these hinges from Liberty Hardwoods but i did buy enough of them to last me a while. Plus i dont sell as much hardware as i used to. The part # in the book is 1 030 883. Hope this helps...Another late night in the shop for me.

I find that i use a little bit of Blum,Salice,Grass,Hettitch,Hafele depending on the specialty of the hinge.

I hope Hettitch is still in business and is doing good...I love their products!

5/10/15       #17: Concealed bi-fold hinges ...
Mark Vierno

door shop guy,

Excellent! I've attached the link for those that might be interested. I occasionally have an application where these might come in handy. Now I need to find a local distributor.

Thank You,

Folding Door Hinge

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