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1" doors with 3/4" frames

10/11/16       
jason testa  Member

Website: jvtestacabinetry.com

anyone ever done 1" thick doors with 3/4" face frames ? this would be for a inset set up also . I got a set up with blum thick door hinges and base plates that work . any tips would be appreciated .

10/11/16       #2: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
Mike Member

Shouldn't be a problem i did that recently with salice hinges with the help from Dennis Bean. I padded the inside flush with the face frame and used a hinge that would open well past 110 degrees (i don't remember the exact degree or hinge model) but everything went fine. Just make a test run on scrap first. I have a picture of the hinge installed.


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10/11/16       #3: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
jason testa  Member

Website: jvtestacabinetry.com

that looks great ! blocking out the inside of the box seems to be the easiest way to do this (what i did with my mock up) . not a big fan of doing this on a full kitchen with wide ass face frames .

10/11/16       #4: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
jonathan mahnken

If you dont want to use blocking then make as many of your divisions flush to the inside edge as possible, and for the remainder blum makes a rear mount base plate specifically for inset doors. It helps a lot to use the blum drill jig for the inset plates, they can be kind of a pain to screw in otherwise

10/11/16       #5: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
jason testa  Member

Website: jvtestacabinetry.com

I use the inset frame mount base a lot . They work well with wide frames . They will not work with the 1" thick doors.

10/12/16       #6: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
jonathan mahnken

then you are stuck either making filler divisions or blocking out. If the frames are not on the cabs already you could add 1/4" to the back side of them. Better yet, if you are the one building these, Why not use thicker stock for the frames?

10/12/16       #7: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Blocking out our using a frame mount mounting plate have been the traditional methods to accomplish this. A newer line of Salice mounting plates in thickness from 2mm to 30mm will let you do these inset face frame doors without blocking out. No cutting blocks, no planning, no attaching blocks and no finishing of the blocks.

The range of fully cam adjustable plates will position the door correctly with a 3/32”gap between the door and the frame. With this full range, almost any inside frame measurement (IS) can be addressed from flush to 1-1/8" IS.

This chart is showing 3/4" thick doors but the same can be done with 1" thick doors by using the correct hinge.

Mike used our 155 degree thick door hinge but the 94 degree thick door hinge can also be used. Both are available with integrated soft close.

Best of luck


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10/12/16       #8: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
jason testa  Member

Website: jvtestacabinetry.com

thanks for the Salice info. They offer way more options for base plate spacing than blum. i am going to look into them .

10/12/16       #9: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Jason,

If you would like additional information or samples to review, just let me know.

Regards,

Dennis Bean
Salice America

10/12/16       #10: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
jason testa  Member

Website: jvtestacabinetry.com

Dennis , It looks like Richileau does not sell the full line of hinges and base plates . can you refer me to a dealer who sells the whole line at a decent price . Thanks Jason T.

10/12/16       #11: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
Bob

Dennis,
I was told that Salice were changing the way they are making the soft close hinge to something similar to the Blum soft close. Is this true and if so, when will the change be made?

10/13/16       #12: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Hey Jason,

Can you tell me where you are located? I can recommend an alternate supplier.

Thanks,

Dennis

10/13/16       #13: 1" doors with 3/4" frames ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Hey Bob,

Salice has always had a deactivation switch on the face frame style soft close hinge. We are now researching something similar for the Silentia, Euro style hinge and are getting feedback now from a few test markets.

This change is early in the development. Your local distributor will have updates soon.

We are currently launching our new (and very innovative) "Air" hinge. Air was the Challengers Award winner at this year's IWF show.

Thank you,

Dennis

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