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0 protrusion Consealed Inset Hinge???

12/27/16       
Justin Member

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Looking for a 0 Protrusion hinge (or 1/4" at most) for an inset application. One of my doors can only open 90 Degrees so its gonna be tight. The hinges themselves can protrude into the cabinet opening as much as they need to but the door has to be out of the way for the roll outs. I know I've run into this situation before but dont recall the remedy. Anyone know if this exists? I already have my roll outs made so I dont want to shrink them all down.

12/27/16       #3: 0 protrusion Consealed Inset Hinge? ...
Leo G

Blum

71T7500N

COMPACT BLUMOTION 39C

COMPACT BLUMOTION 38C

12/28/16       #5: 0 protrusion Consealed Inset Hinge? ...
GR

This sounds strange, but it works. Block out behind your face frame. Drill your 35mm hinge cup hole with a 7 mm set back(bore distance) mount any 0 mm plate on the back of the door, in-line plate looks the best. I would use a Blum 95 degree thick door straight arm hinge. Think of it as a frameless cabinet, now your door is the panel and the cabinet panel is the door. Now when the door opens up it is completely out of the cabinet. You will need to put the hinges between your roll outs. Mock it up and you will see that it works. This is just the opposite of a full overlay door on a frameless cabinet.Compact hinges wont work for inset. The gap behind the hinge is 3/16" and the reveal needs to be over 1/4", both are way to big for doing flush inset.

12/28/16       #6: 0 protrusion Consealed Inset Hinge? ...
Jeff

That's clever GR! The Blum clip top 125 degree zero protrusion hinge should work also.

12/28/16       #7: 0 protrusion Consealed Inset Hinge? ...
Dennis Bean  Member

Website: http://www.saliceamerica.com

Ok guys, let's take a deep breath and think about this. Picture a true inset door. How could it be possible to make the inset door zero protrusion, when open without enlisting the help of Harry Houdini?

I do agree with GR's solution and have seen it done in office furniture. I also agree that the result is somewhat odd looking.

The most common method is to build the frame and a sub frame. You now have an overlay application, that appears to be inset from the front view when closed.
You can then use a 155 degree zero protrusion hinge that will allow the rollouts to clear the door. (See attached crude illustration)

Since you already seem to have the cabinets designed, you will probably need to block your rollouts to clear the door. Century Components makes a very nice pilaster to mount your rollouts on.

Best of luck


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12/28/16       #8: 0 protrusion Consealed Inset Hinge? ...
Justin Member

Thank you for that idea! Since this post, I came up with this cheap hinge. Simple design but does the job. If its action feels cheap, ill try your idea. Either way im taking note of the idea for the next time. Thanks again


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1/10/17       #9: 0 protrusion Consealed Inset Hinge? ...
Denny J

Those no bore hinges will probably work. I just used them to make a flip up false front for a cookie sheet opening in an oven cabinet.

You will miss the adjustability that the euro hinges give you and you need to watch the gaps or they might rub.

As a side note. It's not a zero protrusion answer but if you do a lot of inset jobs with Blum euro hinges, try using the thick door hinges. The benefit is that the way they pivot you can have the hinge side of the door with a reveal of 1/16 or maybe less and still not have it rub the face frame when you open it. You can achieve much tighter reveals with this hinge than with the standard hinge.

12/20/21       #10: 0 protrusion Consealed Inset Hinge? ...
Norm

Iím very late to this thread, but have the same issue (full width drawers with inset doors).

Where did you find those hinges and did they work?

Thanks!

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