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Blind Dado backs and toe kick

2/8/17       
Wes

I'm curious how others are treating their backs and toe kicks with blind Dado construction on a nested based router. Till now we have done 3/4" ends and 1/2" plant on backs. We use leg levelers or plywood toe boxes. With the router coming I'm rethinking all that. Some have suggested 3/4" backs but that seems like overkill and unnecessary weight added. I'm thinking about doing a 1/2" rabbet on the ends and a blind Dado in top and bottom and attaching a 1/2" back that way. Would be interested in any thoughts or ideas you have on this! Thanks.

2/9/17       #2: Blind Dado backs and toe kick ...
Dan Cook

We do 1/4" backs in 3/8" deep dado set in 3/4" with 3/4 nailer behind. That way there is no nailer on the inside and there is a full 1" of material that the attachment screw is going through. Also if there is runout in the wall it allows for some of that in the hollow created in between. It has worked well for us for over 20 years.

2/9/17       #3: Blind Dado backs and toe kick ...
cabinetmaker

1/4 backs in 9/32 grooves Nailers pocket screwed in and drawers boxes are 1/4 nests back and bottoms @ once

2/10/17       #4: Blind Dado backs and toe kick ...
Adam B Member

Dan,

Do you do that same method on upper cabinets? If so what is the depth of your standard upper cabinets and how much room is left inside the cabinet when assembled?

Have you ever had any complaints from a client regarding the usable space left over when a back is set into the cabinet that far?
I like the look that you are achieving by hiding the nailers, but I have also had Ms. Smith complain to me that her dinner plates don't fit in her upper cabinet when we have tried this method in the past.

2/10/17       #5: Blind Dado backs and toe kick ...
al

Most of the time I build frameless and mostly pre finished maple 3/4". Build them
just like Dan stated. Upper cabinets are 13" deep with 12" inside. Waste piece
gets used for stretchers on base cabinets. The plywood I use comes 48.5 so
I get 4 rips for shelves at 11-7/8".

2/10/17       #6: Blind Dado backs and toe kick ...
Dan Cook

We only had one time when an oversize dinner plate was an issue so we bumped up the size of our cabinets to accommodate. It is still worth it to me to have the clean interior. We build frameless and finish our cabinets inside the same as the outside. It just makes for a nicer looking finish cabinet.

2/11/17       #7: Blind Dado backs and toe kick ...
Gerry

We use 5/8" for the backs and tenon it in on all 4 sides. We set the back in 1mm from the back. With the router cutting the parts we allow .5 mm over cut on the tenon shoulder this makes it easy to square the cabinet during assembly.


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