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Small edgebander

4/23/19       
Jonathan Mahnken

Im interested in adding a gluepot edgebander to my shop and looking for recomendations. We are low volume, our average job turns about every 6 weeks. No I dont want to outsource. No I dont have a large budget. Yes our shop is small. I definitely want handheld?portable. There seems to be a lot of imported banders, but not many made here in the states. Dont know if that matters? what would be the best bang for my buck these days

4/23/19       #2: Small edgebander ...
Jonathan Mahnken

correction I definitely DO NOT want portable/handheld

4/23/19       #3: Small edgebander ...
Robb Parker  Member

Website: http://www.HeritageWoodwright.com

We purchased a Hebrock Top 1000. Small footprint, fit our budget but a pretty good bander for size. Have had for about 2 years.

4/23/19       #4: Small edgebander ...
Jeff

We have a Grizzly G0774 and are overall very happy with it. Its not perfect, but if you take the time to keep it clean and adjusted its quite good.

Cantek makes some similar sized/priced machines that I've heard good things about. Some of the smaller options from Felder are also in the same price range.

The biggest downside is it won't edge anything under 4" wide or 8" long.

When its running its great, once an adjustment is off it drives me absolutely insane.

I would like a machine with premill, but don't consider it to be a must have.

4/23/19       #5: Small edgebander ...
Ryan

Look into cantek. If you finance it you can get our payments under $300 a month. It is amazing how quick you can make that up. It also opens you up to the world of frameless cabinets. There is a lot more money to be made there just because of labor saving and how much quicker you can turn jobs.

4/23/19       #6: Small edgebander ...
Family Man

Virutex makes a $4k gluepot bander. We can push 40 European boxes a week through with it. Best value by far on the market.

4/23/19       #7: Small edgebander ...
Larry Schweitzer

I've only used the very small banders a few times but like the bigger machines... Keep it clean, only allow one person to use &/or make adjustments. Turn the pot down or off when not in use. By keeping the glue at the same level as much as possible there will be less baked on goo the clean. A bander is the most labor saving thing in the shop.

4/23/19       #8: Small edgebander ...
Jonathan Mahnken

Thanks everyone

4/27/19       #9: Small edgebander ...
Karl E Brogger  Member

Website: http://www.sogncabinets.com

No idea what you're budget is, but we just priced out a new lower end Homag. $50k. It has premill and scrapers. The next step down was around $30k and would possibly work fine for us.

Edge banders are crazy expensive, but make you much more productive. In our case, allows us to take on some work we currently aren't readily capable of.

4/30/19       #10: Small edgebander ...
Oggie Member

I'm also looking for some smaller edgebander. Does anybody have any experience with Maggi System 3/50 Edgebander? It looks like it's a newer product (maybe first edgebander from Maggi) and it's hard to find any reviews yet.

4/30/19       #11: Small edgebander ...
Jonathan Mahnken

are the Safety Speed cut banders any good? Also does anyone have an opinion of the Holz Her 1402s... saw one for sale

5/14/19       #12: Small edgebander ...
Rob Young  Member

Website: nutekmachinery.com

Jonathan,

What type of edgings are you applying? PVC, veneer, 3mm, wood, HPL, etc...?

Are you looking for used or new? I don't sell used edgebanders, but I do occasionally have a customer that upgrades to a machine with more capabilities that has a reliable machine they would like to sell.

You can find some extremely light weight new edgebanders out there around $12K. Depending on the type of work you do and the quality standards you expect that may suit you but don't expect a $50K finish from a $12K machine.

5/15/19       #13: Small edgebander ...
Jonathan Mahnken

mostly prefinished and unfinished wood veneer and 1mm wood printed pvc. Ive never had to do 3mm yet though im not opposed. My volume is super low. Approximately one large kitchen every 6-8 weeks as an estimate. Also any recomendations for machine brokers in southern california would be awesome

5/15/19       #14: Small edgebander ...
Jonathan Mahnken

Used or new, though everyone seems to be warning me against used

5/23/19       #15: Small edgebander ...
Bwood Member

I bought a holzher 1402 about 4 years ago. Its worked relatively well, replaced a few bearings and other tlc myself. Im quite handy myself with mechanical issues, but pneumatic and electrical is stretching my capabilities. I had some issues with the end trimmer timing that i worked on, eventually the problem went away gradually. Go figure. As a 1 man shop with similar volume, i'd find it hard to be without it. Unless you have a good tech close by i'd aim for something newer.

5/24/19       #16: Small edgebander ...
Jonathan Mahnken

thanks

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