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amana cabinet door cutter question

10/18/20       
jamien Member

Anyone use the Amana 61272 with 3/4" door stock? The description states for 7/8 to 1" doors and the provided measured drawing does not give enough info.
Open to alternatives, but i like this price point ant the option for 4 profiles.

https://www.amanatool.com/61272-insert-carbide-2-wing-stile-rail-4-3-4-dia-x-1-1-2-x-1-1-4-bore-profile-1-steel.html

10/18/20       #2: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Bill

That’s an interesting design. Not sure I’m a fan. Will the cope and stick wear out at the same rate? Those inserts also look pricey.

Have you looked at these heads
https://glct.com/sg.html

The photo on the right is the one I am referring to.

With the same head you can buy as many shapes of steel backers as you want.

You can make more than door profiles

It’s worth a look.

Good luck.

Great Lakes universal insert.

10/18/20       #3: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Bruce H

I think you are barking up the wrong tree. The chances of those cutters working out are almost zero. There is no adjustment for fit of the cope to the style. Look around, you can get a 6 piece set of Freeborn brazed tooling for about $450.00. That will allow you to adjust the fit if needed or replace the groover with one that fits the plywood you are using.

10/18/20       #4: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Karl E Brogger  Member

Website: http://www.sogncabinets.com

Brazed tooling costs too much.

Stacked insert tooling is still the cheapest and most versatile option.

I'd avoid that Amana set just because it is a two wing.

10/18/20       #5: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
door shop guy

You would find out quickly that you wasted your money the first time you tried to use any panel thicker than 5 mm.

10/19/20       #6: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
jamien Member

Thanks for the responses, though none of these answers directly answers my question about using this cutter for 3/4 stock.

The GLC cutter looks much better and i've requested pricing. I already use stacked insert cutting for 95% of my kitchen doors, which are shaker style. i have a specific application that i would need this for, and i could see using it and the additional profiles on occasion as needed. Not a high use piece of tooling. Only having two wings was a concern. Adjusting the panel size would be a non-issue as i need this for solid wood raised panel doors. Though i do see why the option of changing the panel size would make it more versatile. Again, back to the price point for this specific application.

10/19/20       #7: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Leo G Member

Took the picture into my photo editor and it said the cutter height was 1 1/2". So I set it at that on my screen and took direct measurements. I'll be pretty close.

10/19/20       #8: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
jamien Member

Leo,
thanks! didn't think of that. seems like from that this cutter is just a bit too big to reasonably do what i need. increasingly i wish tool companies would provide .dxf downloads of their stock profiles.

10/19/20       #9: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Adam

I’ve got the Infinity raised panel & back cutter. Very pleased. High quality. Crazy sharp carbide.

This set has the profiles I would use most ogee, thumbnail & colonial. It’s a true 3/4”+ set.

Infinity insert door

10/19/20       #10: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Adam

You should be able to figure out a collar/plastic shim combo so you don’t have to raise or lower the cutter head.

10/19/20       #11: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
jamien Member

Adam,

thanks for the infinity tip. i've stayed away from their stuff since i had several router bits turn out to be junk and i started using more industrial tooling. But for a similar price to the amana cutter,and a one time use, this seems like a good option. it is surprisingly in-obvious the cutters are interchangeable in the head.

i don't need shims or any other jiggery-pokery since i got a digital rise indicator on the shaper. a life changing upgrade. repeatably accurate to .002". it has eliminated tons of scrap test cuts and given me hours of my life back. No major tool enters the shop now if i can get it digital.

10/20/20       #12: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Adam

I gave up on Amana a couple of decades ago. Back in the day it was seen as the Pro stuff and Freud is for the amateurs. I could walk into the local builders supply and they stocked the whole range of Amana router bits. . The Amana router bits are no better than any others. I would probably buy a Freud over an Amana at this point. The Amana insert tooling is really nice quality. I’ve got a couple of their helical patterns with a ball bearing collar. Amana’s brazeon cutters are nothing special. I would buy a Freud brazeon before an Amana. They have better newer geometry.

Freeborns are like “they are what they should be“. High quality nothing special about the carbide or geometry. Readily available, excellent customer service, fair price, made in the USA.

I wouldn’t buy an Amana saw blade(I’ve had about 6) They have D10 carbide which wears out way faster than C4. It’s obvious.

Just my experience. We’ve been a small to medium shop for 30 years.

10/20/20       #13: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Scott

I have never used Amana anything I don’t believe, maybe the odd router bit, because Richelieu sells their stuff, most of the router bits I buy are froM Lee Valley, or Frued. I don’t use a lot of router bits anymore.
Most of my shaper cutters are Royce, but like Karl said I would never buy a 2 wing cutter, regardless of the brand. I would also only use insert tooling. I would spend a little more on the cutter heads and they will last you forever. I bought a two wing set quite a few years ago and used it on one job and threw it in a drawer it did such a crappy job. Every time I open that drawer I get disgusted as it was $700 with the inserts.

10/29/20       #14: amana cabinet door cutter question ...
Jared Member

I have a similar head (not the amana) and they work fine. The irritating part is to run the cope face down you have to flip the head and reverse spindle. Running on a small shaper (with any runout or spindle off axis) will cause fitment issues.

I wouldn't want to use it often, but they are cheap and functional.

The dimensions are right there (in metric) on the product page.


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