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Painter strikes again

3/8/22       
Kip  Member

Website: covenantcustomcabs.com

I installed about 40 doors about 10 months ago using Salice hinges with Rapido dowels. The hinges have worked themselves loose due to a painter with a drill…. Any idea how I could repair the door so the hinges will stay in? I figured using a doweled hinges would not work due to the hole being over sized now. What about epoxy in every dowel hole? I would really hate to have to remake every door. You would think the painter would realize after a hinge or two that it wasn’t a screw, but no, he ruined every single one!

3/8/22       #2: Painter strikes again ...
Al

I just refinished a vanity I made about 15 years ago and I had used those rapido hinges. I replaced with soft close with dowels, no problem that I could see. The dowels fit tight.

3/8/22       #3: Painter strikes again ...
Kip Stevens

My concern is that the dowel holes are now too big from the cam being spun are pins with the drill. It’s no longer 8mm.

3/8/22       #4: Painter strikes again ...
Kip  Member

Website: covenantcustomcabs.com

Correction, *cam being spun around with the drill*

3/8/22       #5: Painter strikes again ...
al

Maybe those brass inserts that have wood thread on outside and machine thread on inside. Might be worth a shot.

3/8/22       #6: Painter strikes again ...
RODNEY BLACKERBY Member

Back charge... make him pay.

3/8/22       #7: Painter strikes again ...
gary

Drill the holes out to a common larger dowel size and redrill for the hinges or replace the hinges with hinges that use screws only into the dowels.

3/8/22       #8: Painter strikes again ...
Leo G Member

Old school. Put a pc of wood in the stripped out hole and put the screw back in.

3/8/22       #9: Painter strikes again ...
Kip  Member

Website: covenantcustomcabs.com

It’s an 8mm hole for a dowel

3/9/22       #10: Painter strikes again ...
james e mcgrew  Member

Website: mcgrewwoodwork.com

We use the Blum inserta cliptop hinge, prevents painter nonsense cost a little bit more its like insurance against stupids

3/9/22       #11: Painter strikes again ...
Tom Gafgen

Try Replacing the hinges with Blum insertas,they get most of their "attaching strength" from the gripping pads in the 35mm hole and their expanding dowels will prob. still grab in the over sized 8mm holes

3/9/22       #12: Painter strikes again ...
Leo G Member

Just make sure the hole pattern is correct for the Blum. Not sure if the Salice have the same pattern.

3/9/22       #13: Painter strikes again ...
duster

I've used the Salice and Blum Inserta & Expando hinges interchangably lately as supplies one one or the other dried up.
The boring pattern is the same.

3/10/22       #14: Painter strikes again ...
Scott

I would first try the Inserta hinges like others have mentioned, If that doesn’t work you will have to use dowels like mentioned or epoxy, the problem is fixing every door with dowels and/or epoxy is time consuming.
Most importantly, find a new painter.

3/10/22       #15: Painter strikes again ...
Kip  Member

Website: covenantcustomcabs.com

Yep, I do not have the time to replace all of the hinges and plates. I’m stretched way to thin already. The painter was not my hire, thankfully. I’m going to try the epoxy and what happens Btw, Blum inserts is my standard hinge but they were unavailable at the time of need. Maybe I should have titled the post “ Covid strikes again”’

3/10/22       #16: Painter strikes again ...
Tom Gardiner

The dowels themselves are more likely to be worn down in diameter than the wood in my opinion. Have you tried replacing the dowels from a new hinge to see if they are tight. You will be able to purchase replacement dowels.

3/10/22       #17: Painter strikes again ...
Kip  Member

Website: covenantcustomcabs.com

It’s not a dowel hinge. It’s a 1/2 turn cam mechanism. It’s metal the hole is toast

3/11/22       #18: Painter strikes again ...
Karl E Brogger  Member

Website: http://www.sogncabinets.com

If switching hinges doesn't work, remake the doors. (Assuming it's just a simple overlay for.) It'll only take a little longer, and you don't have to worry about a screw up creating more screw ups. Making things is easy. Fixing things is the hard part.

Charge the painter. Or if you work with him frequently, put it in your pocket as a favor for when you need to be bailed out.

3/11/22       #19: Painter strikes again ...
scott b

As a last resort Bondo the holes and redrill. The bondo is as hard as original wood.

3/11/22       #20: Painter strikes again ...
Will Williamson  Member

Website: http://www.willmade.com

Hot glue anyone ? Fast, clean, strong.


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