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Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetware

7/11/15       
Cabinet guy

I have had a CNC for a few months now. I used Cabnetware for years but I just couldn't stomach the 15-20 grand they wanted for screen to machine. I hate to lose the investment but I just can't justify that for a $80,000 tool.

I have been using Mozaik for and getting by with it but I still don't love having to bounce in and out of sketchup. I can do most of what I need to but it seems like tech support will get back to you some time in the next few years if you send them an urgent email telling them that you are down and the router won't work without help.

I am seriously considering Cabinet pro and am very impressed with Frank but I hesitate to buy without some kind of trail to make sure that I like it. The online video and demos are alright but I see many negative posts and guys who have dumped it and moved on.

Anyone using Cabinet pro right now willing to give me some input? How is tech support when you need help (both with the annual update and without)? Also what do like and hate about the program? All the stories I see have me a little scared about wasting my money.

What about KCD, or any other suggestions.

I don't want to feel like I bought a new pickup with tires that go flat every 100 miles because it saved money.

I have seen cabinetsense but importing DXF files is cumbersome and seems like going the wrong way.

Thanks for your input in advance.

7/12/15       #3: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
Rich Kuban Member

KCD user but not a CNC user, so I am speaking only about KCD. KCD is relatively easy to learn, and once you own it, you are entitled to free support and updates for that version for life. Version upgrades are infrequent and relatively inexpensive. For design and pricing, there are video tutorials on their website anyone can access at anytime. There are no online videos for the CNC Commander module.

There is no supported online user group for KCD either, so you are limited to the free support during their business hours on the East Coast. Other resources include: For LinkedIn members, there is a LinkedIn KCD user group that you can request to join. There are several helpful CNC users in that group. There is also an active KCD forum in the Cabinet Makers Association too, another KCD CNC resource. Access to that requires a qualifying paid membership to CMA.
Hope this helps!

7/12/15       #4: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
Derrek

I had a cnc for years and didnt want to spend the money for good.software. Biggest mistake I have made in my business. A properly set up.screen to machine will save you HUNDREDS of hours a year. Time is the most valuable asset you have and you cant buy more. When I went.to s2m and nested base cnc, my business profit increased drastically. Dont skimp on software.

7/13/15       #5: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
Keith Godwin

Website: http://www.godwincabinetshopinc.com

I have been using Cabinet Pro for almost 10 years now. I couldn't afford to pay Cabinet Vision $13,000.00 to do the screen to machine deal. I'm a small custom shop. Cabinet Pro has grown into a screen to machine software package. I have used it for all my machining on my cabinets. It has always worked for me. When I have a problem, I either send in a report or call Frank. I have NEVER had a problem getting support. You will find out very soon that the relationship you have with your support person is at the top of the list when you are depending on your cnc daily. Frank is always working on improving the program. It does so much more now than it did when I started 10 years ago! Don't see how you could go wrong with it. Good luck!

7/14/15       #6: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
Tom Schipper Member

Website: http://www.mastercabinetmaker.com

I have also used Cabinet Pro for over 10 years now. I am a one man CNC shop. Cabinet Pro writes directly to my machine with no problems. Whenever I need help, Frank is always ready to get me up and running again. Cabinet Pro is one of the best investments I have made in my business. Feel free to contact me directly if you wish.

7/14/15       #7: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
Rich Kuban Member

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but Tom, your website showed up for sale when I clicked on it.

7/14/15       #8: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
Tom Schipper  Member

Website: http://www.themastercabinetmaker.com

Thanks Rich !!!
I had to re-register myself this morning as I had changed my email address and mistakenly put in the wrong website info. I have now made the correct changes. Thanks again Rich!

8/19/15       #9: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
cabinetmaker

We paid off the note early for CabinetVison last year. I just added another seat and bought some more training hours. And, I second Derricks comments.

8/29/15       #10: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
Denny J

I am a mozaik fan myself. I have used KCD for years and it is a great program if you build very standard cabinets with no large scale customization but if you do, Mozaik is a much better choice. First off very low start up cost but also the ability to easily customize and create pretty much any cabinet configuration. Modification is easy to do and we had very good results on everything.

3/16/18       #11: Cabinet pro--Mozaik--KCD--Cabinetwa ...
Loran Member

Our company just purchased CabinetPro and I am really struggling to learn the software. I'm starting from scratch - we did not use ANY software before. I myself am not a cabinet maker, but I do have experience with the drawing and drafting side of it. So some language and details in the program are foreign to me. Is there anyone in Michigan with this program that would give me a crash course on this software??? I could travel to you and work out compensation. EMAIL ME! loisten@firehousewoodworks.com Thanks!

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