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V Carve and Automation

6/17/18       
Jon Member

I currently work for a company using V Carve Pro. We do the same parts everyday. The product never changes. The only thing that changes are counts. Different products ordered by customers. I am very familiar with Router Cim. If we used it the less than 70 parts would be drawn, layered and saved. Then a cut approach would be made and saved in Router Cim so when it sees a layer in any drawing it produces a tool, lead in lead out and cut approach every time then nests automatically.
Is there any like process in V Carve? It appears we manually nest parts.
Second can I toolpath a proven part and then array it?
I need some solid advice about how to automate this until we find new software that can handle this repetitive part production simply.

6/17/18       #2: V Carve and Automation ...
Mark B Member

Vectric has a very aggressive, active, and knowledgeable, forum that may be a good place to cross post if you already havent.

VCarve pro has the same capacity you speak of by the sounds of what you posted in that you can save any toolpaths needed to given layers (named whatever you like) and then you can also generate and save toolpath templates which can contain a single toolpath or an entire slew of toolpaths that will be automatically generated and applied to the layers you assign. So if you have a pocket cut you can put those pockets on layer "pocket 1", you can generate a tool path that is associated with that specific layer. Everything on pocket 2 could have a different tool, toolpath, and so on, and an automatically generated toolpath associated. One for drilling, one for profiling, and so on.

Im not sure what your situation with the "lead ins and lead outs" would be or if you are running form tools that undercut. Those lead-in's and lead-out's should be in the toolpaths themselves.

With regards to an array of course. There is an array button clearly in the menu. So if you have 70 different parts, once you have generated the vectors for those parts (with any needed lead in/outs) and your customer wanted 64 of them you could generate and array that left you with 64 pieces, select all, then hit nest, it will nest them in your sheet size for the job, and they you can use the "apply toolpath template to all sheets" gadget to apply your toolpaths.

6/17/18       #3: V Carve and Automation ...
Mark B Member

"Those lead-in's and lead-out's should be in the toolpaths themselves." Should have been vectors not toolpaths. Your leads would be in the vector drawing for the part or in for instance a profile tool path you can go into the "leads" tab and add leads as needed for that toolpath and they would be automatically added.

6/17/18       #4: V Carve and Automation ...
Jon Member

Thanks Mark. As far as nesting is concerned will the software automatically put the parts on the sheet. Meaning if I have 5 cabinet sides and 4 decks,and the cut strategy has been defined , will the software just lay it out toolpath it and simply give me gcode once I select the parts in the job with the count?

6/17/18       #5: V Carve and Automation ...
Mark B Member

Yes. Though the nest would of course vary based on what mix of parts you are nesting (seems obvious I guess). I have no idea with regards to the specifics of your situation and now you mention cab parts, but yes. If you had x number of x cab to build or any variety of other cabs you would just load the vectors from your cab software, they would come into Vcarve as a file (hopefully pre-arranged on toolpath specific layers already) and you would simply nest them with whatever nesting parameters you choose, part rotation, nest inside other parts, whatever.

At that point you can load and apply a toolpath template which may have 1 or 50 different possible toolpaths that would apply to specific layers. The key would be to have your vectors come into Vcarve layered so once you ran a single job with every possible option it would just be routine at that point.

The only issue may be if you need specifics on the leads. We rarely do leads so not completely clear on how that would apply but you can apply leads to any toolpath and any tool path can be saved as a template. If I had specific needs for leads (where they start, stop, and over-runs) I would be putting that in the vector layer. Im not sure how Vcarve handles where leads are generated by default or if they are moveable.

6/17/18       #6: V Carve and Automation ...
Jon Member

Mark thanks for the insight. Tomorrow I'll look into the tutorials. You have been helpful.

6/18/18       #7: V Carve and Automation ...
james e mcgrew Member

Website: mcgrewwoodwork.com

Download the version you want and test away ! the demos are free to learn and full function, they give you some toolpaths the try for specific machines and you can save your work to us at purchase,, none if any at all SW companies offer that,

2/16/21       #8: V Carve and Automation ...
Admiral Member

I donít know if this is still relevant but I may be able to help. I worked at a metal sheet fabrication factory, and pretty much 80% of it was automated. I do know that the owner always ordered the equipment from one company only, so I guess he was satisfied with their products, but I donít know how good their software is, we used their tech exclusively with no problems, so could be something worth checking out.

https://www.automationstop.com/buy-allen-bradley

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