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Cabinet drilling questions

1/31/23       
Scott Member

Small scale cabinet/carpentry shop question, Looking for advice recommendations for drilling shelf, hinge, slide holes. Looking for recommendations for both hand drill and possibly router drilling holes. Have a homemade template with vix -5mm and 5mm router bit with 3/8 bushing for couple options for 5mm holes. I am using Hettich hardware so also need to drill 10mm holes, also Picked up a 5mm and 8mm (i think cnc drill bits) they shanks have a flat side on them.
Can i use these flat side shank bits in a router? Any suggestions these drilling operations for a small cabinet job and perhaps what should look toward if i get into bigger jobs small CNC ? All suggestions welcome . Thanks much!

1/31/23       #3: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Thomas Gardiner

The Hettich jigs and drills are very good. Once you are familiar with the setup drawer and front installation is very quick. I use my cnc for shelf and hinge boss holes. Carbide brad point bits with 10mm shanks running at 10000 rpm

1/31/23       #4: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Scott Member

Thomas, have you used the Hettich door 3 hole drilling guide? The 1 with 35mm and 2x10mm. The jig you speak of is that the longer metal 1 that transfers your door spacing to the cabinet? Also please elaborate on which drill bits? Is that the set? Are they retractable/self centering. And lastly i got some bits from a cabinet shop but I think they are for a cnc or boring machine. They seem to cut a nice hole with a drill . They have a flat side on the 10mm shank. There is an adapter available to go from 10mm to 1/4", Can i use these bit in a compact router? Concerned about rpms.
I appreciate all input. Just trying to have options for site drilling and a solid method if I expand beyond a few cabinets here and there.
Thanks much!

1/31/23       #5: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Thomas Gardiner

I have the 5mm and 10mm Hettich drills with sprung sleeves for the jigs. I do not use the hinge cup jig. I either cnc bore my slab doors or use a drill press for wood framed doors.
The drills you have are for hinge bore and insert machines like a Blum mini press. They are great for drilling but a typical hand router speed is too high for them. I use a similar drill at less than 10k rpm in the cnc.

2/1/23       #6: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Scott Member

Thanks Thomas. Any other guys/gals out their with their smaller shop methods for drilling/routing cabinet boxes, doors. Or could someone direct me to the appropriate thread. I'm a bit of a newbie

Thanks much!!

2/3/23       #7: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Quicktrim

The festool LR 32 system is good for what you are wanting to do.

Mine collects dust now that we went all CNC, so its available for cheap barely used if you want to buy it. I would sell it for 60 % of new and also the track saw repeat rip guides if that is of any interest.

You would need a festool router however to use it.

2/3/23       #8: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Scott Member

Think i would go with something like schitt 32 drill the whole panel in 1 setup basically. Thanks for offer have a tracksaw, and shipping anything to Manitoba Canada would be crazy expensive. Think im going to go with template and plunge router for now. Is there any quality entry level CNC machines out there. I think i have seen a Canadian onefinity ? Are they all around 5k
Thanks much.

2/5/23       #9: Cabinet drilling questions ...
ScottO

I usually post as Scott as well, but will change it up from now on.
How many are you planning on doing? Why don’t you get someone to cut and machine your gables? You will probably be further ahead for cost as they will get the material for a lot cheaper than you and will save you a ton of time laying out and drilling.
I would get them to edgeband as well. You can then concentrate on assembly and putting it all together.
I would consider the same for doors. How many are you needing? The door manufacturer will drill the hinge holes for you, it costs next to nothing.
There are also lots of aftermarket jigs to drill the hinge holes that are cheap to buy. Depending on how much of a hurry you are in or where you are located you could probably find a used dedicated hinge machine for sale for less than a $1000. I bought my first Blum mini press for $500 from a shop that upgraded.

2/5/23       #10: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Scott Member

You are correct. Right now doing cabinets for myself and the odd other ,I have the time to drill/route cabinets. If at some point things change i may explore higher production options.
Thanks everyone for the conversation.

4/20/23       #11: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Michael Member

Website: https://virmer.com/

The normal speed of a hand router is too high for such drills. you can try a standard tracksaw)))
In general, large doors etc. are better cut on a CNC router.

https://virmer.com/catalog/cnc-milling-machines/

4/26/23       #12: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Chippy1987 Member

I agree with @Michael on this one and say going with a CNC router is your best bet!

5/22/23       #13: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Jeff

I would waste my time with all those jigs, and routers , or drills, most are expensive when you buy the complete system and then your shelves don’t sit flat as one row is somehow off 1/2 a mm.
Something like trend sells where you use a drill is as accurate as any of them and cheap. If you are going with something like Festool, I would put the money to a line boring machine. Something like the Minimax 21 spindle or SCM makes a 23 spindle. I have seen them sell anywhere from $1200 to $2500 used, they are way faster, a lot more accurate and can also drill horizontally, so if you want to build drawer boxes or cabinet boxes with dowels, you are in business.

7/31/23       #14: Cabinet drilling questions ...
Michael Member

Website: https://wattsan.com

Regarding the homemade template with vix -5mm and 5mm router bit with a 3/8" bushing, this setup can work effectively for 5mm holes. Ensure that the template is securely attached to the workpiece, and use clamps to hold the workpiece in place during routing.

As for the 10mm holes required for Hettich hardware, you will need a suitable drill bit. For larger holes like this, a Forstner bit or a hole saw attachment for the drill can be used. Make sure the drill bit is sharp and aligned properly to avoid tear-out or inaccuracies.

Regarding the 5mm and 8mm flat side shank drill bits, typically these are designed for use in CNC machines rather than routers. It is not recommended to use them with a router, as the flat side shank may not be compatible or secure in the router's collet.

If you plan to take on bigger jobs in the future or explore CNC machines, investing in a small CNC router can be beneficial. This will allow for more precise and efficient hole drilling, as well as other woodworking operations.


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