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How can I make this raised panel profile in my CNC

2/15/24       
Andre Member

Hello everyone,

I am new here and this is my very first question.
I am always eager to learn, so please anyone is welcome to share their thoughts. No answer is wrong, all ideas are great.

We are new in the CNC world, and we are learning as we go.
We got a job where will be making over 250 removable raised panels. This is a perfect job for the CNC. The profile is quite unique so I decided to ask you guys how can this be accomplished with a CNC machine.

I am attaching the drawings of the profile.

Thank you for taking the time.


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2/15/24       #2: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Dropout Member

It's a tough profile to do.

I think you'll have to design it in 3D and then go from there. I don't see a good combination of tools that will work easily unless you have a 5 axis machine.

I'm looking forward to other's ideas.

2/15/24       #3: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Karl E Brogger  Member

Website: http://www.sogncabinets.com

I'd do a couple of them with vcarve and a ball nose. That's crazy slow though.

250 of them, I'd entertain running the profile on a tilting shaper on sticks, then wrapping a core and veneering.
Or have a moulding shop run the material for me.

The corners are what will screw you. If I'm understanding the profile, that can't be run on a solid piece in a normal spindle scenario. You run one edge, the tangent edge will cut through through the other edge.

That's a seriously dumb profile and somebody needs a buttchewing for flexing their ego and lack of building knowledge.
At the very least whatever college they sent in enough cereal box tops to for a diploma needs a negative yelp review.

2/15/24       #4: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Richard

Hi Andre,

I have a couple of questions for you.

1. What material do you have to produce these in?

2. What software do you have?

Depending on the answers to these questions you maybe able to make these as a 2 piece door, basically an MDF frame with an MDF centre panel.

The centre panels could easily be nested and cut using any CAD/CAM software.

For the frame your software would need to be capable of squaring up the corners of the profile with a ballnose tool. This would still take a little time but would be significantly faster than using a a ballnose for the entire profile. I know Enroute and Alphacam support this function and I'm sure that there are other products that do also.

This method would require you to glue in the insert panel but it can be done pretty quickly. Probably your CNC operator can glue the panels in whilst the CNC is cutting.

2/15/24       #5: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
BH Davis  Member

Website: http://www.bhdavis.net
I'm not saying this is the best solution but you could make an outer frame and an inner panel. The split between the two would occur at the bottom of the V-cut.

The outer portion can be run as straight moulding stock mitered to make the rectangles or butt joints with miters at the profile like on beaded face frames. The inner panel would be run like any raised panel on the shaper or CNC. The outer frame would be assembled around the center panel.

I suggest this because in the cross section it looks like there is a backer panel to support the assembly.

As others have mentioned the only way I know of to do this out of a single sheet on the CNC is with 3D raised panel door software. I use Enroute and while I haven't ever used this feature I know it is there in the Pro version. This would be a time consuming, tedious process with so many panels involved.

BH Davis
2/16/24       #6: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Robb Parker

We use Mozaik for our CNC. they have a door template you can program all sorts of one piece mdf door profiles in. We do raised panel, shaker and many others on a 3 axis flat CNC. We even have glass profiles in our library of doors. Check it out.

2/16/24       #7: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Andre Member

Hi again,

I am routing out 3/8" or 3/4" half round beads in the face of 3/4" MDF panels with the CNC machine. While doing so, the panels cup in width and length.

I would like to know how relief cuts are done. Are they done in a specific pattern? are they free hand?
What are the widths of the relief cuts?

Any answer will help for me to know what to do.

Much appreciated for your help!

Have a great one!


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2/16/24       #8: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Andre Member

Hi again,

I am routing out 3/8" or 3/4" half round beads in the face of 3/4" MDF panels with the CNC machine. While doing so, the panels cup in width and length.

I would like to know how relief cuts are done. Are they done in a specific pattern? are they free hand?
What are the widths of the relief cuts?

Any answer will help for me to know what to do.

Much appreciated for your help!

Have a great one!


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2/16/24       #9: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Andre Member

Not sure what is going on but that is not the message that was supposed to be sent out

2/16/24       #10: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Andre Member

Ok. Please disregard any of the answers. I am having a hard time with this forum today because when I go to messages I see none of your answers and I can only access this when I go to the email and click on view the thread. Otherwise anywhere I go in the forum site in shows all messages received as empty
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2/16/24       #11: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
Andre Member

So, my long message was lost and the only thing that was sent right was the correct image of our thoughts.

First of all I want to thank each:
-Dropout
-Karl E Brogger
-Richard
-BH Davis
-& Robb Parker

..for taking the time. I really appreciate it. I wasn't expecting an answer in such a short time. You guys rock.

Richard
1. MDF
2. We use Fusion to do anything that goes to the CNC

BH Davis
Its an insulated backer.

Your ideas inspired us to go in a different route. Nothing like a brainstorm.
Since this is such a hard thing to accomplish with a CNC we decided to use the machine for just doing a mortise with the width of the profile and 1/16" to 1/8" deeper than it to create a break (making the finish room life easier) and routing out the shape of each panel, and then use our Molding guy to sent us poplar with that profile and we'll just insert it in the mortise with the mitered corners. The only thing done manually at the panels is squaring out the corners of the mortise.

This was a great way of educating myself on the How To's.

Thank you so very much for your help and I apologize in advance for not having enough knowledge to help anyone in same situation as me today, but if comes the day that I can contribute I'll be very happy to do so.

PS- the image with our idea is attached to better clear any thoughts of what we intend to do.


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2/16/24       #12: How can I make this raised panel pr ...
BH Davis  Member

Website: http://www.bhdavis.net

I was thinking along the same lines but your initial drawing didn't show enough material behind the profile to rout out the mortise and still have solid support across the width of the panel. But that's definitely the way to go.

BH Davis

 

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