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P2P in a small shop

6/10/24

Neo

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I won't disagree that a nested CNC is best for a small (1-man) cabinet shop, however long-story-short a Morbidelli P2P just landed in my shop.

Any suggestions how to fit it into my workflow, in terms of both processes and software?

6/12/24 #2: P2P in a small shop ...

Dropout

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I would just use it as a drilling machine. If you want to get really fancy you could cut all your parts oversize and then size them on the ptp but that seems overkill to me.

6/12/24 #3: P2P in a small shop ...

Neo

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I would need to trim the edges. I'm cutting on a Unisaw and nothing is as straight or square as I'd like. Plus the bottom of the cut has too much chipout for any two sided parts. If the part is already on the machine, it's only a few seconds more to take 1/8" off each side.

The machine has Xilog, which I believe has some parametric programming functions. Does anyone have experience with this?

6/13/24 #4: P2P in a small shop ...

Mike

Its been almost 25 years, but even then Xilog had very useful parametric features. I had one program for each type of cabinet end and the operator just had to change the part height and depth. You are correct about nested based machines, but at least you can dip your toe into CNC with that ptp.

6/17/24 #5: P2P in a small shop ...

Steve

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Website: https://wattsan.com/

It's cool to hear about how advanced Xilog was even 25 years ago. Those parametric features sound super handy�just changing the height and depth for different cabinet ends must have saved a ton of time.

You're right about nested-based machines being great for efficiency, but starting with a point-to-point (ptp) machine is a smart move. It's a good way to get your feet wet with CNC without diving in too deep. Plus, you can always upgrade as you get more comfortable with the tech.

6/26/24 #6: P2P in a small shop ...

Mike

In another lifetime, I worked for a company and I bought a Morbidelli, maybe in 1999 or somewhere near there. It was a traveling gantry machine not a C frame. Anway, I do remember SCM, or an aftermarket company selling a nested based kit to replace the pod and rail system. you would need a different vacuum pump for more volume, but it was an actual thing in the early 2000's. Sorry I can't remember details, it was a long time ago. If that still exists, it might make more sense than a traditional ptp.

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