I am working with some high level pro's and I'm trying to get up to speed. We are forming a new company, focusing on an extremely high end design/build final product. My roll is to put all the pieces together, back office, etc. but I want to learn as much as possible so I don't look like a dummy in meetings :) . Sorry total newby here.

I started looking at the Holz-Her products but haven't explored other lines yet.

Assuming I have a 5k sf shop. What would be the ideal setup, CNC machine, additional equipment and basic layout that I would need? What is the output limit on this size shop with this type of equipment?

What could I produce with 10k sf.

Sorry I know this is a little vague but I'm trying to get the 10k foot view before I dig into the granular elements.

Sorry to sound negative but your entire post/question reads horrifically scary but completely pertinent to todays startup. My only input would be probably one thing your already doing and thats social media in every way possible... Another youve probably already covered is LLC (though its pretty much pointless with regards to protection). Beyond that I would say monster liability policy.. 5-10 mil minimum and a good lawyer.

Who knows what you can push out of 5Ksq' without knowing the product? Custom stair cases or gourmet coasters? Your obviously not reaching out for funding or financing anywhere because your question would be far better crafted and focused to get succinct answers you need and not waste the time of others, and more importantly, your own. When starting up you have about 0.0000000 time for questions and conversations that do not get you to the immediate answers you need.

Mark B. Sorry I left that part out, we are building design/build cabinets. Yes I am new but I have to start somewhere. I'm just trying to get an overview of all the pieces. I jumped into the car wash business and have opened a medical clinic, both times not working in the industry, both times successfully. I know how to run businesses, my partners know the intricacies of creating the final product.

All I ask is that this group help me learn with my appreciation for your time given.

It all starts at the estimate. Then moves forward controlling costs from pos to manufacturing to logistics. It’s pure war.

Good design software to digital cultists that drop at the machines is imperative.

We literally have assembly 30 to the dock and build into our semis or box trucks

Design build is great just stay with industry standards as in 3” increments on the box sizes. Try not to reinvent the wheel every job

We cut medical and dental, schools and rsidentail. We cur boxes and
Corian on our Biesse Rover and stone on our Sasso All digitally.

cabinetmaker,
Are you saying that from the minute a job or cabinet hits the floor its in your tractor/trailer in 30 minutes?

Mark B

Sorry. We are 30 feet from the dock in assembly.

We just did a little 8k job with 24 cabs and Plam tops in 1 day between shops for the counters and cabs. We cut it all in the main shop and sent tops to the top shop and we built the cabinets. We got the returned submittals Weds They go on Monday.

I did know it was fast track, so we got the materials coming as we submitted drawings

Anyway. No not 30 minutes

What is the product?

How are you going to market it?

Trevor,
If your partners know the intricacies of creating the final product, they should know what equipment they require and what size shop you would need.

You can create the final product with a track saw, an iron, some 18 volt drills, a belt sander, a random orbit sander, a harbour freight spray gun and a few other basic tools and jigs. Oh ya a pickup truck would be good for picking up your material and delivery. You can work out of a garage or shed.

Or you can have a beam saw, a cnc, an edgebander, a dowel machine, a case clamp, all the planers, jointers, shapers, wide belt sanders, dovetail machines, coping machines, straight line rip saws, hinge machines, etc. A complete veneer area with a hot press , guillotine, stitcher/ gluer, and the sanders for veneer. A finishing area with spray booths or better yet a spray line with the finish sanders that go with it. You can automate a lot of it and have return conveyors, vacuum lifts, etc for material handling. Forklifts, delivery trucks and the list can go on and on and on. Working out of a shop that is 100000 sq ft or more:

There are also who knows how many options in the middle.

There are a lot of smart people on this site, a lot of amazing craftsman, but not to be negative , your question is extremely vague and you would need a mind reader to answer it.

"What could I produce with 10k square/ft"

About $6000 in rent monthly around here.
That's the easiest solution. Leverage against that building, and go get another one.

Way easier than slugging it out in this donkey show of a biz. :)

Back to the machine aspect, Holzher offers a wide range of capabilty with their products. We run a Holzher 5 a xis promaster pod and rail machine and produce stair parts. My advice after being through this whole process already is go talk with shop guys, see their product, see their capability. Machine manufacturers will ALWAYS tell you best case scenario to benefit them, but it's not always a real world application. Our shop owner constantly has questions as he is not a machine or software guy whatsoever, and sometimes doesn't like the answers . It can be frustrating if not educated. Just accept the fact that there will always be tooling cost, material cost, etc. Software needs to be fully functional and capable of meeting your demands. We use Alphacam 5 axis ultimate, great software but does not always play nicely with Holzher's NC HOPS.
Are you primarily manufacturing flat stock components?