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biesse rover a or k

2/6/24       
greg ciach

looking at biesse rover a or rover k for plywood application. unsure of the differences on these machine. Units im looking at are used . Can roller hold downs be added to these easily??Any other units that may be worth looking at. Cautiously considering chinese unites also.

2/8/24       #2: biesse rover a or k ...
Mike

Based on the tech support for our Biesse edgebander, I say run away from them. No, roller hold downs can not be easily added. Not very many companies do that well. There is one USA company that is extremely good at it, but its not Onsrud. Pricey though. Good luck!

2/9/24       #4: biesse rover a or k ...
Dropout Member

Are you already doing plywood?

It's a different world.

Small or large pieces? Different strategies for each.

I have had nothing but good luck with Biesse service on CNC as long as you get the info from them and do the work yourself.

I've had Biesse, Thermwood, Anderson and Komo. Biesse are definitely the most complicated.

2/13/24       #5: biesse rover a or k ...
Dan

Plywood has many variations. From plywood with veneer to exterior grade plywood. The main issue is flatness of the board. Pywood with veneers veneer is usually pretty flat. Though exterior grades tend not to be.

I machine a lot of AC-Fir with and without plastic laminate. Parts fairy in size, smaller parts are cut leaving about 1/16" and then cut thru with a final pass. The machine we use is a Komo with a large vacuum pump. The operator at times will have to flip the sheet or press down the sheet for the best results. Overall the results are pretty good though at times there are issues with parts. At times we have full sheets that cannot be used because of the warp in the board.

Roller hold down would resolve many of the issue I have come across. Roller hold down is not a standard feature on machines. I have seen it as an option for machines.

At the show last year in Vegas there was a company that was putting roller hold down on all of the machines in their product line. The company is an American company called Phantom CNC. There is a lot of information on youtube about the machines they offer.

Phantom CNC

2/17/24       #6: biesse rover a or k ...
Derrek

Biesse used to have the best tech support. Not anymore, I have friends who have been down and waited days to talk to a person. I also believe they are now simplifying through complication.
I switched to Anderson 3 years ago and haven’t looked back. Support isn’t as big an issue when you don’t need it because machine runs every day! Glad to talk if you have questions

2/19/24       #7: biesse rover a or k ...
Justin Morris  Member

Website: https://www.centexautomation.net/

Komo makes a good roller hold down system and I am sure Anderson can make it happen as well. I am a former Biesse and Komo tech. Which do you think I prefer working on? The Komo. I can source parts fairly easily and Komo does not have super crazy markups on parts like Biesse does.


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