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Veiling Lacquer

10/14/17       
MSC Member

Guys, need your help. What was the difference between regular lacquer, and the paint that was used in veiling lacquer. I cannot find any info on this at all. I need a veiling paint. I know that there is something you mix in with lacquer to make it have "memory" or more stringy. from what I hear there was an additive. They used this technique on lampshades in the 50s and the veiling stain on wood. Any help would be amazing. Thank you so much!

10/14/17       #3: Veiling Lacquer ...
rich c.

Google had a lot of info, maybe start here;

WOODWEB Knowledge Base Article

10/15/17       #4: Veiling Lacquer ...
MSC Member

Hey Rich thanks for the link. Ive seen everything on this forum, which is a reason I had decided to reach out to you guys and see if anyone had any other info than what is already out there. I understand what the veiling lacquer does, but I don't understand the components of it. I have a veiling gun, and I'm having trouble recreating a veiling lacquer, mainly because I've never actually physically seen it in person. I understand you can use a normal lacquer paint and add something else in to give it some memory so to speak. To make it more pliable like string or rope. I just don't have many resources, and hoping someone on here has actually used a veiling gun and or veiling lacquer! I appreciate the help!

10/15/17       #5: Veiling Lacquer ...
Michael Foscone  Member

I had no idea what you were talking about till I read the link, and saw the example.
That affect can be achieved in a number of different ways, depending on the finisher. One easy way after the base coat is sealed, is dip an old hard brush into, Japan paint, or oil color thinned down. Hold the loaded brush over the piece and tap the handle with a stick, or the end of a screwdriver, to get the desired effect. Let it dry and top coat it.

10/15/17       #6: Veiling Lacquer ...
Bob Niemeyer  Member

Website: niemeyerrestoration.com

If I remember right the product is close to 100% vinyl. ICA Wood Coatings has it in colors. It is the FL product line. Works real nice and easy to use.

ICA Home page

10/15/17       #7: Veiling Lacquer ...
rich c.

Custom car guys will suggest unthinned or lacquer set out to let the solvent evaporate out, plus putting the lacquer in the refrigerator for at least on hour before spraying. Google search used for both my responses.

Cob-webbing Article

10/16/17       #8: Veiling Lacquer ...
Shane

Funny... I just had an application come up for a commercial job we need to run that has a veiling type technique to get the look and I just bought a new gun setup for a pressure pot to try and replicate it... looks like the old opex production lacquer from Sherwin could produce some veiling because it comes very thick.... for my application it wont work for me because I need a metallic... I'm having to go the acrylic enamel avenue with an autobody paint....

10/16/17       #9: Veiling Lacquer ...
DanShafner

An old school method of making your own veiling lacquer, a/k/a "dishevling", is to dissolve Styrofoam into your lacquer. The idea is to get it to spray to give cotton candy look.

Manufacturers who make cultured marble sinks use veiling lacquers.

Abbot Paints in Brooklyn, NY sells or used to sell veiling lacquer.

Graco used to make a decorators gun that did veling and also flyspecking. Iwata bought out their patent from them. The Iwata gun used to retail for about $450 maybe 15 years ago. I had an employer who stole mine. I doubt he ever used it.

10/17/17       #10: Veiling Lacquer ...
DanShafner

Iwata SGD-71

10/17/17       #11: Veiling Lacquer ...
MSC Member

Thank you so much guys for all the responses. You guys rule. This helps a lot.

Dan, melting styraphoam in the lacquer was exactly what I was looking for. I've actually tried this with decent results but I am looking to figure out how to get these more circular patterns. I've gotten them once but I'm having trouble finding the right consistency. I have a binks 2001 with the veiling set up and I know it's the right gun to make these spiral patterns. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? Thank you!


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