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Finishiing Kitchen Doors White Gap between rail and Stile

9/5/24

Jay Hicks

Hello,

I am trying to understand an issue with a colleague. They are saying that a client is refusing to accept the kitchen doors because of the lines that appear where the rail and stile meet. Solid wood frame with MDF panel. Spray finish with white lacquer (product is unknown).

What are the tolerances of what is acceptable. Without being a one piece MDF door is it even possible to achieve this without having a line where the wood is moving. Sorry I do not have pictures.

How would you respond to client? Thanks in advance.
Jay

9/5/24 #2: Finishiing Kitchen Doors White Gap ...

Yavuz

You will always have that problem as long as you use real wood for stile and rail period !
Medex is way to go for solid color .either 5 pieces,2 pieces or 1 piece.
if you have a cnc nothing beats the 2 pieces door.trust me.

9/5/24 #3: Finishiing Kitchen Doors White Gap ...

gary

We guarantee our painted 5 pc doors and face frames. We guarantee them to eventually crack. We then show customers our mdf doors and explain the differences. The mdf doors win almost every time. We will build either way but we educate the customer on what to expect either way.

9/7/24 #4: Finishiing Kitchen Doors White Gap ...

Keith Farr

We took a que from homedepot cabinet spec sheets and put exact wording in our contract about "wood being a natural product that shrinks and swells and to expect hairline cracks"

9/8/24 #5: Finishiing Kitchen Doors White Gap ...

Leo G

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If you are seeing a line there on a newly built and installed doors maybe the assembly technique or finishing isn't spot on. After time, a year or two through climate cycles you may see a hairline crack. But with a new door it shouldn't show. Either insufficient glue in the joint, needed to be filled before/after priming or didn't scuff hard enough to flatten the joint.

Sounds like a picky client or a not so picky finisher.

9/11/24 #6: Finishiing Kitchen Doors White Gap ...

Frank Garrido

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Website: http://www.cabinethero.com

Also, the inside panel should be free-floating and not glued down or painted in. If it is not locked in place it will minimize the stresses on the joint between the stile and rail.
minimize the stresses on the joint where the stile and rail meet.

9/11/24 #7: Finishiing Kitchen Doors White Gap ...

Matt Calnen

One thing to consider is the glue will swell the joint on assembly. A swollen joint needs time to dry back out. If you sand before the glue joint is fully dry, and stank back down. It will leave a hollow after it does dry out.
I personally like to glue the mdf panel in. I think it acts as a gusset for the door, putting less stress on the joints as the door ages and is used

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