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New direction in finishing my work

10/23/24       
Troy Beverly

Website: http://iwswoodworking.com

I am the owner of a 8 man high end custom shop specializing in 80% custom cabinetry 10% custom tables and furniture (not chairs) and 10% commercial woodworking (bars back bars etc..)
I have a great large finishing department using Ilva products. All spray work very rarely hand applied. I am totally changing my life and pursuing my life long dream of a small 1 to partime 2 man custom shop in a barn on my property in the mountains. because I have spent 30 plus years of my life doing my finishing one way, I am reaching out to see if anyone has ever switched gears and still produce high end kitchens and woodworking using brushed / wipe on applied finishes and still be able to be efficient. I don't have the space for a small spray booth and honestly I have had a experienced finisher doing my work and been so busy running my company I have never taken the time to fully learn HPLV finishing and frankly at my age don't want to start now. I am looking for advice to transform my finishing into something that works fairly easily and can be applied to large products with beautiful results. I was thinking of possibly Tried and True Original wood Finish just either brushed or ragged and back ragged. per instructions. Never used these products and wondering if I had a large kitchen with inset face frame possibly beaded and 30 plus doors and fronts could this method be fairly efficient or is there any other brushed / wipe on finish someone has used to recommend?

10/23/24       #2: New direction in finishing my work ...
Leo G Member

Hand brushed is a sector in itself, high end usually. It takes time, lots of time. I think you'll be pulling your hair out soon after you finish up your first pc by hand instead of spraying.

10/23/24       #3: New direction in finishing my work ...
Troy Beverly

Website: http://iwswoodworking.com

I don't think I have any other choice on finishing my work other than outsourcing which I don't want to do. What about applying finish with airless sprayer and letting it sit and dry rag it after. I know it's not ideal and will take time but I need to find a way around spray finishing.
Doesn't need to be furniture quality but needs to be good

10/23/24       #4: New direction in finishing my work ...
Leo G Member

Since you are using waterborne why can't you setup a small booth with a fan in your barn?

10/24/24       #5: New direction in finishing my work ...
Troy Beverly

Website: http://iwswoodworking.com

The main reason which I noted earlier is I have zero experience with finishing and at this point in my life I don't have the desire to start the learning process. Looks like outsourcing is my only option unfortunately. Was just looking for anyone who has "invented a fairly efficient way of using brush / wipe on finish

10/24/24       #6: New direction in finishing my work ...
Yavuz

Sir , learning how to brush cabinetry is far more harder than getting a simple portable battery powered graco sprayer and spray your work.
almost need no experience to learn IMHO.
As you may well know there is no age learning something new.
Hang your hat and get back to work :))

10/24/24       #7: New direction in finishing my work ...
Troy Beverly

Well said. I guess you're never too old to learn new tricks. I am familiar with Ilva products my finisher uses now. If I was to sometimes use Hardwax Oils I have been looking at Tried and True, Rubio, and General Finishes.
I have heard feedback that Rubio was slightly flat on sheen. I also was hoping to only use 2 coats for time savings. Anyone have a favorite when you weigh cost, ease of application and overall clarity and sheen?

 

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