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Pewter finish

1/25/16       
tiptop

Greetings All. Well the blizzard has passed, so let us spray!

I have a large ( 10' H x 16' W) installed feature piece that has been requested by a designer for a commercial client.

The finish requested is a pewter color, with a basic dry brush stroke to give some movement in the finish.

The closest I could find as a reference is a venetian type finish that Valspar offers in a latex paint. I think there will be a durability issue, since the piece will be placed in such a way that the general public can walk right up to it......and touch it. Being Americans, that is our God given right to do so, as you know.

So, any ideas? I shoot primarily Valspar C/V products, clears and pigments.

I am looking for feedback from any finishers that may have direct experience with this color.

In my mind, I am thinking a pigmented base with a tinted glaze that I can manipulate.

I have already done a few trials with a silver/grey Lesonal automotive paint w/ a tinted c/v seal coat, and am in the ballpark color-wise.

I will be shipping this up to the client meeting on Monday Feb. 1.

Thanks

1/25/16       #2: Pewter finish ...
Leo G

Can it be clear coated?

1/25/16       #3: Pewter finish ...
todd71

Website: http://www.innovative-accents.com

Sculpt Nouveau is awesome. Takes some playing around to but the patinas really make it POP!. I like to mix 3 colors to get some depth. Like black, brown then green or blue. Cool stuff.

Sculpt Nouveau

1/25/16       #4: Pewter finish ...
tiptop

Yes Leo, it can be T/C'd. That was what I was doing after the tinted sealer.

??? Todd. have you used the iridescent powders? The metallic ones might just do the trick. If you have used them, can you give me some idea of how far a 2oz. jar would go mixed into a topcoat. ie: 1/2 ts. per quart?

Also, I forgot to mention, the sheen of the topcoat is matte. I am wondering if the iridescence would be lost in the flattener of the matte?

Thanks

1/27/16       #5: Pewter finish ...
todd71

Sorry, no experience with iridescent powders. I've only used the "wax" patinas.
I looked over the youtube page and didn't see a powder video. I'm sure if you call they can help you out.

Good luck.

1/27/16       #6: Pewter finish ...
Robert Member

Sounds like a challenging project and the time is running out. I would opt for powders as you can adjust the formula to your liking.A few important rules to follow with the powders are...I would use the CV as the coating.. keep your mixture in an agitated state while spraying. The powders will sink. We used a pressure pot with an air activated propeller to keep the coating in constant motion.

Don't try to achieve the final color with one pass. Build up to it similar to the way you would apply a toner.

Add the powders to the solvent first and then add the solvent to the material.

I don't see the powders working all that well in a Latex, they need to be dispersed in a thinner coating so they float around.I think in a Latex they may just clump together and not flow out.

The flat finish may work to your advantage....if you look at a Pearl automotive finish, the coating has a flatter sheen to it. If its real glossy, lots of the shimmering effect of the powders may get lost in the high gloss sheen. ( I'm not sure if that's coming out the way I mean it to )

Let me try again... with a lower sheen,the shimmer of the powders will take more advantage of the available light as opposed to the shimmer being drowned out by the high gloss.

1/29/16       #7: Pewter finish ...
tiptop

Reading my OP, I should have clarified this is early in the process, the larger scale piece will be heading up sometime in September. This is just one facet of it.

Well, here's an update. This is a 2'x2' sample that is heading up for a design meeting. The backer board is 3/4 mdf and the overlay is Cintra which was cut out using a water jet.

I did a c/v primer (x2) in white, with 3 coats of Lesonal in a silver. On the third wet coat, I flashed for 45 secs, and then took a boars hair brush and did short non-directional strokes. I tried a badger hairs brush earlier and it was too soft to really make a diiference.

Topped with a Matte c/v tinted with a burnt umber NGR. I did another sample and randomly misted some yellow NGR c/v, which also worked out well. We are holding that one back for the time being.

Photos never really translate, but we're definitely in the ballpark. It will be interesting to brainstorm a finishing schedule for the larger piece.

For some reason this post is only allowing two files to be uploaded. Two more will be in the next post.

1/29/16       #8: Pewter finish ...
tiptop

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2/2/16       #9: Pewter finish ...
Rick Mosher  Member

Website: profinisher.blogspot.com/

Createx makes excellent acrylic airbrush paint in many metallic colors, they are also designed to be topcoated for automotive use.

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