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what is anybody's go to product for white satin finish? I don't do a ton of finishing but up until now most of my finishing has been stain and sherwin williams cv.
About five years ago i did a small project with general finishes WB white. If you rubbed something metal on it it would leave a mark.

My local sherwin williams is mostly a paint store and the guy working there doesn't know much about cv.
if i use WB do i need to do a clear over it?


9/17/17       #2: spraying white ...


Best I have ever used is chrmcraft pladsticolor. Has a great feel, consistent sheen, very easy to spray, does well in vertical application, and wears like iron. I've yet to have a negative customer review on the product. I prefer to spray it opposed to stealth, or the valspar CV.

9/17/17       #3: spraying white ...

l use both the Kem-Var F3 pigmented CV and the Kem-Aqua pigmented WB lacquer. l too only have a SW paint division store to buy from but with a week or two advance notice they can get the product for me. I do have to drive 30 miles if l need the CV tinted as it needs 844 tints which my SW store does not carry.

9/18/17       #4: spraying white ...

Yes, adding a clear coat will get rid of, or at least reduce, the effect you speak of, which is called "coining". The downside of clear coating is that it may result in a color shift, so you need to choose a clear that is really clear.


9/18/17       #5: spraying white ...

my local Sherwin Williams store says they have a white catalyzed lacquer. Has any one used it? They are checking to see if they can get me white CV.


9/19/17       #6: spraying white ...

I dont use SW products, but I am 100% certain they have what I am about to recommend, I just dont know what they call it........

Since you are already spraying clear SW conversion varnish, just get some white conversion varnish and have them tint it to whatever colour you need.

Spray a coat of primer (must be compatible with the CV), scuff, then spray a coat of tinted CV, and done.

A quick google search brought up SW Kemvar Plus. Read the spec sheet and it should tell you what primer to use.

9/19/17       #7: spraying white ...

Yes.. SW Kemvar Plus is the CV u want.
And the primer would be Kemvar Plus Surfacer (E63W50)

9/19/17       #8: spraying white ...

Kevin, is that something that Sherwin Williams can tint in the store? Like i said my local SW is just a paint store but they do sell Kem Var water white cv which is what i usually spray. I guess i can go there and talk to them.


9/23/17       #9: spraying white ...
Mike Fuson

For the last 6 months Iíve been using Mohawks ez-vinyl primer and their white flow cv. I love it, itís the easiest and the best Iíve used so far. Iíve had several pails tinged as well. Quick dry times too.

9/23/17       #10: spraying white ...

thanks for the response Mike. I contacted Mohawk and they sent me some info and advice on how best to spray it.


9/24/17       #11: spraying white ...
Mike Fuson

I think youíll like it nicko, they say it doesnít need thinned to spray but I use their reducer with it. Just makes it lay down better with a more even coat. Iíd say 8-10% on the clear and 10-15% on the pigments. 15 minute sweat in and has an 8 hour pot life.

9/26/17       #12: spraying white ...

what do you mean by 15 minute sweat it?


10/3/17       #13: spraying white ...
Michael Foscone  Member

If you use the right product, you should not have to top coat it, The best I've used is Becker Acroma.

10/5/17       #14: spraying white ...
Alex Havens Member


Using white over that is a good idea. I've even gone as far as powder coating materials and surfaces that are somewhat more difficult to work with. We had a smoker in our backyard with a outdoor oak bar bar which I absolutely loved. We had a clear coat applied to the surface for a smooth and sleek appearance.

Outdoor kitchen & smoker with range hood

10/5/17       #15: spraying white ...
Mike Fuson

Nicko, when you mix the catylist in you have to give it 15 minutes for the chemicals to react and do their thing. Then stir again and ready to spray.

10/6/17       #16: spraying white ...
Jason Balm  Member


Nicko, Ask your store to put you in touch with a SW Product Finishes rep or search for your closest PF store location. We have nearly all of our product shipped in from a Product Finishes store. The local retail/commercial SW locations are really limited on depth of product offerings and knowledge.

We love BeckerAcroma products and SW owns them. For Pigmented CV we use KemVar 8420 (H66W80146). I think this cross references to Beckers Matador. This is a great product IMO.

Also look at the primer/surfacer KemVar 5411S (E63W50001) Also known as Beckers UniSurfacer. We also use KemVar 9230S - V84F90041 (20 Degree - known as Amerivar from Becker) for our topcoats. All of these use the same catalyst too.

4/22/18       #17: spraying white ...
antonio ageeb

jason balm would you say sherwin's pigmented kemvar plus is the same product as matador?

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