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6/28/23       
ryan Member

What is everyone charging to stain/finish walkthrough doors? i just did 28 total doors and they were custom made at 3'x8' in rustic alder with a dark stain. we had to take the door off the frame, remove the hinges, and then finish.
We also did a few thousand feet of 5/8" x 6" baseboard and 3/4" x 3 3/4" casing.

We have standard pricing for a standard sizes door, but these were all custom made, very large, and very heave since they were solid.

any information on what everyone is charging per doors this size would be helpful. thanks!

6/28/23       #2: millwork pricing ...
RichC

If you just did a big job like that, you should know exactly what to charge to meet a profit number for your business. Locale is very important in cost because of the labor cost and building overhead. Working in a small city, vs a huge metropolitan market makes a huge difference in cost and really don't relate to each other! There will be no universal pricing across the country, the same as you found for your business.

6/28/23       #3: millwork pricing ...
ryan

yes, I do know all of my costs and hours put into it, but I don't like pricing it that way. its much easier to know a cost per door before starting, so the customer knows what its going to cost. The only reason we did this without giving our customer upfront costs is because we know them very well and have a good history them and they were fine moving ahead this way.

I understand that numbers can vary depending on where you live and I won't dispute that. I would still like to know what people are charging so I have an idea. whether or not its in my territory, I still think its good information

6/28/23       #4: millwork pricing ...
Leo G Member

This is one of those you just gotta know prices. Like you said, bigger than usual, heavier than usual. Probably something you didn't do before other than normal sized doors.

Just moving them around costs a lot more time than you think. Just like when I build a floor to ceiling cabinet I know handling is going to add a bunch of extra time into all aspects of the process.

I would guess whatever you charge for a normal door plus 5-10% for the weight and 15% more in finish costs because of the extra 16" in height. It's pretty substantial as a percentage.

6/29/23       #5: millwork pricing ...
Bart

So it sounds like you feel like you did more work than you got paid for. Been there done that. As a rule of thumb I'm $200 for interior doors (starting)
not including jams/trim for stain/clears (I don't do much onsite anymore). I wouldn't touch doors like this for less than $400 per. For cabinets I'm $100ft for stain/clears lineal. So an 8x3ft door is 6ft lineal.....and both sides flush finish. So add in the jam/casing......That's for starters. So that's my math.
cheers
Bart

6/29/23       #6: millwork pricing ...
RichC

You may not like pricing based on cost and overhead, but that is the way to profit. A standard quote per piece or foot is the way to business failure. What I meant by referencing this job, is that you now know exactly how many hours it took so the profitable pricing on the next one should be a breeze.

6/29/23       #7: millwork pricing ...
Leo G Member

This is the biggest problem being a custom shop with a wide assortment of jobs that get accepted. It's good to keep the work flowing in but it does make it tough to price jobs out because most of the jobs you do are something you haven't done before.

Finishing a slab door vs finishing a elaborate paneled door with profiles and carvings are two entirely different things. And until you do both you don't know and it's hard to guess and make money while getting the client to accept your price.

Lately I am shocked at my own prices to do things that weren't that expensive just 3 years ago.

7/17/23       #8: millwork pricing ...
Nick Sinderson

The correct answer is...whatever your cost and profit margin combined equals. I've been at this for 45+ years and l've bid to get jobs, l've worried if my price is too high, l've worried about what my competitors price is, l've worried if my price is too low but one day (25 years ago) l came to the conclusion the price is what l'm willing to do the job for. Sure knowing what the market will bare is good info but you first off need to know what you can do the job for.


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