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Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray

10/3/23

What is the best way to achieve a high glossy finish using water-based finishes?
The customer wants a gray high-gloss.

I'm thinking the best way would be to stain the wood and then apply a 50-sheen clear coat rather than a 50-sheen black finish.

10/3/23 #2: Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray ...

RichC

Stain would not be my choice, but maybe they want a transparent color and are just worried about the gloss. The big problem with many water based finishes is the cure time. Not the dry time. A finish out of the gun is not enough for high gloss. To get a perfect gloss finish you have to wet sand and do a couple grades of polish. The finish must be fully cured before any buffing is even considered.

10/3/23 #3: Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray ...

Michael R

Hi RichC

That's what I thought a lot of water-based processing time and won't be cost-efficient to a customer or at least trying to explain it reasonably.

I'll just attempt to get them to pay for a sample using their selected gray paint color in a 50-sheen and see how that flies.

Thank you!

10/3/23 #4: Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray ...

Leo G

High gloss and a 50 sheen are miles away from each other.

Solvent 2K poly's cure in days.

10/4/23 #5: Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray ...

Adam

Do you understand that the sheen scale is 1-100?

Awlgrip 2k Poly has a sheen of 95. It is a true mirror read a newspaper reflection coating. That is off the gun with careful prep on the side of a boat. It's a solvent.

ML Campbell Arroyo 1k or 2k gloss white pigmented are 70+ sheen. They are waterborne and can easily be tinted at any paint shop or add your own pigment.

10/8/23 #6: Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray ...

Kevin Dunphy

Website: http://kdunphy.com

I've done lots of true High Gloss finishes a long time ago.

It is hard never found a residential customer willing to pay the price .I can't imagine the cost of a kitchen and you'll need skill and skill .

Leo right do your homework the fake high with expoy is not the same as a polished 2k or Polyester.I know Ikea sells fake high-gloss laminate white , could find that in a grey.

Below is a like I did car parts for an MG in high gloss

BTW there is no sheen number in high gloss

know Ikea seel

10/9/23 #7: Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray ...

JeffA

In my hard knocks opinion, most people would accept something in the 60+ gloss for a high gloss. But... and I mean But....you will need to do a magnificent job of prepping which includes whitewood sanding and filling along with 2 coats of primer to get a good filled surface. And that doesn't include applying the enamel. All that gloss will show everything you have missed and everything you didn't know..... Best of luck

10/10/23 #8: Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray ...

Adam

I�ve sprayed & buffed( 8) coats of MLC waterborne 2K clear on a qtr sawn white oak desk top.

1st day Woodsong solvent stain. Sealcoat shellac + transtint dye toner coat.
2nd day (4) coats 2K clear
3rd day (4) coats 2K clear
4th day curing
5th day buffed it to mirror.

That was back in the mid 2000�s. The waterborne stains weren�t good enough yet.

10/12/23 #9: Best Way to Achieve High Gloss Gray ...

Brian

I know this will sound crazy but it works. First stop thinking like a woodworker and more like an auto body technician. Once you have the substrate sanded and completely sealed use the same steps and materials as if you were finishing a body panel. Go to an auto paint supplier forget the woodworking.
Go through the steps and you will get a mirror finish that is durable.
The down side is that the materials are expensive and it takes a lot of time the end result is that few are willing to actually pay the price. I've done a full kitchen in mirror gloss black which is the most difficult color to make perfect. Charged 17k for the finish work, customer was very pleased but I should have and could have charged more as it takes TIME to get it perfect. Any way Auto finish materials are much, much better suited for high gloss.

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