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ScribingTool

3/2/20       
Cabinet Concepts Utah  Member

Website: https://www.cabinetconceptsutah.com/

I am looking for a scribing tool that helps my guys scribing fillers. Any suggestions?

3/2/20       #2: ScribingTool ...
Mark  Member

A small metal grommet can be used; insert the pencil tip into the grommet and roll it down the wall while marking the scribe filler

Or tell them to take the time to learn to use compass scribes, probably still the best tool to use.
Over the years i've tried a few of the gimmicky scribing tools but nothing works any better than the small compass scribes.

3/2/20       #3: ScribingTool ...
Cabinet Concepts Utah  Member

Website: https://www.cabinetconceptsutah.com/

Mark, thank you.

3/2/20       #4: ScribingTool ...
pat s gilbert

Carpenters Scribe

I bend the point out a bit so you get a better scribe. Just run it once

3/2/20       #5: ScribingTool ...
Cabinet Concepts Utah  Member

Website: https://www.cabinetconceptsutah.com/

Pat, that is a great Idea.

3/2/20       #6: ScribingTool ...
pat s gilbert

It came into popularity recently about 50 years ago

3/2/20       #7: ScribingTool ...
pat s gilbert

Another technique that works is to measure the opening every 12" or so and recreate the opening on the filler, and cut it on a portable table saw

3/3/20       #8: ScribingTool ...
SteveL Member

I've tried a few different approaches, what I find the best is taking a 3/4 x 3/4 rip of scrap about 2-3'' long then drilling through a hole for a pencil length wise. The hole should be drilled at an angle to one or both planes of the board. This allows you to slide the pencil to adjust the mark.
If you play around with some scrap you can get it drilled to be able to rotate the block for larger or smaller marks then fine tune by sliding the pencil in or out.

The best part is that it has a solid base to slide along the wall so there can't be any user error, you can mark it multiple times and the line will be the same. The pencil is almost straight on so you can push to get a heavy mark with out breaking the lead.

And its basically free!

3/3/20       #9: ScribingTool ...
Sam

The knowledge base has good articles
if you search on "scribing" - an example:

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Scribing_loose_end_panels.html

article on scribing

3/3/20       #10: ScribingTool ...
Tyler

https://www.richelieu.com/us/en/category/tools-and-shop-supplies/hand-tools/measur
ing-layout/marking-tools/thingamejig-scribing-tool/1061855/sku-9110001

Kind of gimmicky but has worked well for us.

3/3/20       #11: ScribingTool ...
pat s gilbert

Sam

That article makes a mountain out of mole hill.

I have found the portable table saw to be the most efficient

A skill saw works good especially if you run it backwards, but not recommended for nu bees.

Jig saw and a belt sander works ok but slow

An angle grinder works good also.

3/3/20       #12: ScribingTool ...
Scott Markwood

Did you happen to catch Peter Millard on YT talking about scribing? He shows a stupid-simple scribe idea around the 10:30 point.

Peter Millard: How to Scribe an infill

3/3/20       #13: ScribingTool ...
Cabinet Concepts Utah  Member

Website: https://www.cabinetconceptsutah.com/

Thanks guys!! I will have the installers try all the ideas you have sent and see what works best for them. Thank you all again!

3/3/20       #14: ScribingTool ...
Bruce H

Drawing the line is only part of the scribe. Try and angle grinder with a sanding disk. No chip out is the best part. Easy to grind something that is not straight.

3/4/20       #15: ScribingTool ...
rich c.

The accuride pro scribe is nice. Also for really tough scribing work, like fitting built-ins against a stone fireplace, the Veritas log scribe is wonderful. Pricey, but worth it on the though job. https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/veritastransferscribe.aspx

AccuScribe Pro

3/5/20       #16: ScribingTool ...
Kip  Member

Website: covenantcustomcabs.com

My favorite scribe marking tool is called “thingamajig” it’s made by an Australian company. Solid, well thought out tool.

5/15/20       #17: ScribingTool ...
Scott

Lee Valley sells this one for around $15 Canadian dollars so probably almost free in the US. It has metric at one end and imperial measurements at the other end.


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6/11/20       #18: ScribingTool ...
Gary Balcom Member

any opinions on the quickscribe? On a cordless trim router with the scribe already attached to the cabinet, seems like it would be very fast.

http://www.thescribingtool.com/quickscribe.html

Sort of above, I always thought a 10" bandsaw onsite would be more accurate and safer than a job site tablesaw for scribing not so straight lines. something like the Rikon 10".

6/11/20       #19: ScribingTool ...
Pat Gilbert

Hi Gary

I don't see how that device would work in corners or ceiling or vertical surfaces.

With any new idea, the question is does it take more time to use it than the existing device. Is the setup time greater than the benefit of using it.

The last thing an installer needs is something else to carry in to a job site, cabinets is the worst trade in this regard.

If you go to job sites how often do you see this device?

Regarding the table saw, the old way was with a skill saw as the cabinets had to be scribed.

With euro boxes the cabinets use fillers. Fillers are tough to scribe with a skill saw

The trick to using a portable saw is that you need a splitter behind the blade so that you don't get a kick back. In this manner you can cut a very curved shape.

Much faster than a bandsaw would be and a lot lighter to carry.

BTW a craftsman prides himself on his scribes.

6/11/20       #20: ScribingTool ...
Gary Balcom Member

"BTW a craftsman prides himself on his scribes." I couldn't agree more. The last site I worked on, I scribed with a block plane, with the scribe attached to the box. It was quite fast and accurate (no caulk needed). But, that won't work well for commercial work.

6/11/20       #21: ScribingTool ...
Pat Gilbert

Did the homeowner appreciate the scribe?

 

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