Cabinet and Millwork Installation

You are not logged in. [ Login ] Why log in
(NOTE: Login is not required to post)

Tall cabinet depth when abutting base run with countertop

7/24/22       
Gene Davis

I'm a fan of having the tall cabinet front out from the front of the adjacent basecab run, just enough so the countertop resolves nicely into the side of the tall, without its edge sticking past and needing a radius corner.

Tall cabs can be ordered from most all the manufacturers with an extended side sticking out the rear. 1-1/2" works nicely so the installers can screw 2x lumber cleat/spacers to the wall right behind where the tall cab goes. It's easy for us because we get our jobs CNC cut and the cab build software permits any extension we spec.

Are you seeing this extra-depth-side-for-tall thing never, or mostly, or just occasionally, and what is your opinion of doing this, versus not, and letting the countertop supplier just doodle the corners?

Two pics attached. One a photo, showing the tall with its face out just enough to make the c'top resolve, the other a 3D render of flush talls, and c'tops needing the radius corners.


View higher quality, full size image (556 X 578)


View higher quality, full size image (1138 X 790)

7/25/22       #2: Tall cabinet depth when abutting ba ...
Josh Koschak

I have the exact same scenario going on with a bathroom project right now.

It is a linen cabinet next to the vanity. They are inset cabinets so the linen cabinet I am building it to be 1-1/4" deeper than the vanity cabinet. I feel that looks much better when the counter top can die in to the wall of the tall cabinet rather than stick out the overhang dimension.

7/25/22       #3: Tall cabinet depth when abutting ba ...
Mark B Member

I always run the tall cabinets deeper than the bases for the same esthetic you mention but if I have an instance where the tall must be the same as the depth I specify horning the countertop around the edge of the tall cabinet. Countertop fabricators (especially quartz/granite/etc) belly ache about it endlessly but I just demand it. If we are running solid surface in-house we just do it by default.

Nothing to me looks worse than a countertop overhang not horning around the adjacent cabinet even by 1/2"-3/4". It just shows intent.

7/25/22       #4: Tall cabinet depth when abutting ba ...
Leo G Member

I usually make mine 25 1/4" deep for inset cabinets.

7/31/22       #5: Tall cabinet depth when abutting ba ...
Larry

I do the same. Everything has good detail. Not eye catching. Especially in modern cabinet design.

8/1/22       #6: Tall cabinet depth when abutting ba ...
Jim

Oven/pantry/refrigerator cabinets 24 3/4" deep with 25 5/8" applied finished end
Kitchen base cabinets 23 3/4" deep
Usually countertop at 25-25 1/4" depth

8/2/22       #7: Tall cabinet depth when abutting ba ...
D Brown

I make the tall cabinet 2" deeper than the base to allow the inch and a half overhang of the countertop to die into the edge of the tall cabinet looks very deliberate instead of an oversight.

8/28/22       #8: Tall cabinet depth when abutting ba ...
Adam

It's typical to treat the oven cabinet as a unique appliance cabinet, just like the pantry or refrigerator. When you are building a custom kitchen, I would expect it.


Post a Response
  • Notify me of responses to this thread
  • Subscribe to email updates on this Forum
  • To receive email notification of additions to this forum thread,
    enter your name and email address, and then click the
    "Keep Me Posted" button below.

    Please Note: If you have posted a message or response,
    do not submit this request ... you are already signed up
    to receive notification!

    Your Name:
    E-Mail Address:
    Enter the correct numbers into the field below:
     

    Date of your Birth:



    Return to top of page

    Buy & Sell Exchanges | Forums | Galleries | Site Map

    FORUM GUIDELINES: Please review the guidelines below before posting at WOODWEB's Interactive Message Boards (return to top)

  • WOODWEB is a professional industrial woodworking site. Hobbyist and homeowner woodworking questions are inappropriate.
  • Messages should be kept reasonably short and on topic, relating to the focus of the forum. Responses should relate to the original question.
  • A valid email return address must be included with each message.
  • Advertising is inappropriate. The only exceptions are the Classified Ads Exchange, Machinery Exchange, Lumber Exchange, and Job Opportunities and Services Exchange. When posting listings in these areas, review the posting instructions carefully.
  • Subject lines may be edited for length and clarity.
  • "Cross posting" is not permitted. Choose the best forum for your question, and post your question at one forum only.
  • Messages requesting private responses will be removed - Forums are designed to provide information and assistance for all of our visitors. Private response requests are appropriate at WOODWEB's Exchanges and Job Opportunities and Services.
  • Messages that accuse businesses or individuals of alleged negative actions or behavior are inappropriate since WOODWEB is unable to verify or substantiate the claims.
  • Posts with the intent of soliciting answers to surveys are not appropriate. Contact WOODWEB for more information on initiating a survey.
  • Excessive forum participation by an individual upsets the balance of a healthy forum atmosphere. Individuals who excessively post responses containing marginal content will be considered repeat forum abusers.
  • Responses that initiate or support inappropriate and off-topic discussion of general politics detract from the professional woodworking focus of WOODWEB, and will be removed.
  • Participants are encouraged to use their real name when posting. Intentionally using another persons name is prohibited, and posts of this nature will be removed at WOODWEB's discretion.
  • Comments, questions, or criticisms regarding Forum policies should be directed to WOODWEB's Systems Administrator
    (return to top).

    Carefully review your message before clicking on the "Send Message" button - you will not be able to revise the message once it has been sent.

    You will be notified of responses to the message(s) you posted via email. Be sure to enter your email address correctly.

    WOODWEB's forums are a highly regarded resource for professional woodworkers. Messages and responses that are crafted in a professional and civil manner strengthen this resource. Messages that do not reflect a professional tone reduce the value of our forums.

    Messages are inappropriate when their content: is deemed libelous in nature or is based on rumor, fails to meet basic standards of decorum, contains blatant advertising or inappropriate emphasis on self promotion (return to top).

    Libel:   Posts which defame an individual or organization, or employ a tone which can be viewed as malicious in nature. Words, pictures, or cartoons which expose a person or organization to public hatred, shame, disgrace, or ridicule, or induce an ill opinion of a person or organization, are libelous.

    Improper Decorum:   Posts which are profane, inciting, disrespectful or uncivil in tone, or maliciously worded. This also includes the venting of unsubstantiated opinions. Such messages do little to illuminate a given topic, and often have the opposite effect. Constructive criticism is acceptable (return to top).

    Advertising:   The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not an advertising venue. Companies participating in a Forum discussion should provide specific answers to posted questions. WOODWEB suggests that businesses include an appropriately crafted signature in order to identify their company. A well meaning post that seems to be on-topic but contains a product reference may do your business more harm than good in the Forum environment. Forum users may perceive your references to specific products as unsolicited advertising (spam) and consciously avoid your web site or services. A well-crafted signature is an appropriate way to advertise your services that will not offend potential customers. Signatures should be limited to 4-6 lines, and may contain information that identifies the type of business you're in, your URL and email address (return to top).

    Repeated Forum Abuse: Forum participants who repeatedly fail to follow WOODWEB's Forum Guidelines may encounter difficulty when attempting to post messages.

    There are often situations when the original message asks for opinions: "What is the best widget for my type of shop?". To a certain extent, the person posting the message is responsible for including specific questions within the message. An open ended question (like the one above) invites responses that may read as sales pitches. WOODWEB suggests that companies responding to such a question provide detailed and substantive replies rather than responses that read as a one-sided product promotion. It has been WOODWEB's experience that substantive responses are held in higher regard by our readers (return to top).

    The staff of WOODWEB assume no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or outcome of any posting transmitted at WOODWEB's Message Boards. Participants should undertake the use of machinery, materials and methods discussed at WOODWEB's Message Boards after considerate evaluation, and at their own risk. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages it deems inappropriate. (return to top)


  • Forum Posting Help
    Your Name The name you enter in this field will be the name that appears with your post or response (return to form).
    Your Website Personal or business website links must point to the author's website. Inappropriate links will be removed without notice, and at WOODWEB's sole discretion. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links it deems inappropriate. (return to form)
    E-Mail Address Your e-mail address will not be publicly viewable. Forum participants will be able to contact you using a contact link (included with your post) that is substituted for your actual address. You must include a valid email address in this field. (return to form)
    Subject Subject may be edited for length and clarity. Subject lines should provide an indication of the content of your post. (return to form)
    Thread Related Link and Image Guidelines Thread Related Links posted at WOODWEB's Forums and Exchanges should point to locations that provide supporting information for the topic being discussed in the current message thread. The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not to serve as an advertising venue. A Thread Related Link that directs visitors to an area with inappropriate content will be removed. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links or images it deems inappropriate. (return to form)
    Thread Related File Uploads Thread Related Files posted at WOODWEB's Forums and Exchanges should provide supporting information for the topic being discussed in the current message thread. Video Files: acceptable video formats are: .MOV .AVI .WMV .MPEG .MPG .MP4 (Image Upload Tips)   If you encounter any difficulty when uploading video files, E-mail WOODWEB for assistance. The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not to serve as an advertising venue. A Thread Related File that contains inappropriate content will be removed, and uploaded files that are not directly related to the message thread will be removed. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links, files, or images it deems inappropriate. (return to form)
    Sponsors
    • Cab Parts
      Pre-manufactured Components for Easy-to-Assemble Cabinet Boxes
    • Cabinetshop Maestro
      Web-Based Project Management Software for Custom Cabinet Shops - Manage Jobs from Prospect to Punchlist Through Scheduling, Task Management, Time Tracking and Communication
    • KCD Software
      Powerful 3D Cabinet/Closet Design Software with Built-In Touchscreen Mode for Mobile Use with Best Production Practices Including Direct to Cut List, Cabinotch and/or CNC Machining
    • WalzCraft
      Custom Doors and Wood Products
    • Steve H. Wall Lumber Co.
      Quality Hardwoods and Softwoods, Exotic Wood, Furniture Quality Plywood, and Hardwood Flooring
    • Elias Woodwork & Manufacturing
      Solid Wood Cabinet Doors, Furniture, Dovetail Drawers, Mouldings, and Related Items
    • Unique Machine & Tool
      Industrial Machinery for Door and Drawer Production
    • Palmetto Cabinet Doors
      Supplier of Quality MDF Cabinet Doors
    • American Vision Cabinets
      Leading provider of Custom CNC cabinet parts and components and Edge banding services
    • Cabinet Pro
      Design and Manufacturing Software for the Cabinet and Door Industries Since 1986
    • INNERGY
      INNERGY is the ERP for woodworkers, by woodworkers. We are birth to death millwork.
    • Parts Cutter CNC
      CNC Cabinetry and Closet Parts
    • CP Adhesives
      Supplying Quality Adhesives to the Woodworking Industry

    Become a Sponsor today!