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Upcut saw leaving rough ends when cutting pine.

5/29/24

Owen Beniek

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We are trying to figure out if there are any solutions to get the upcut saw to cut smooth again we just recently noticed this, when the wood that we have to stamp on both ends, the marking are almost unreadable to the roughness of the cuts.
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I am using a 18" upcut saw made in Wisconsin (crosscut solutions) with a Tigerstop fence system. We are cutting between a 1x4 to 4x4 pine materials (grades between a #2 to #4 grade).

The problem we are having is that the stamp we have to put on each board has to be readable. If we didn't have to stamp the wood we wouldn't care. But the cuts are leaving rough ends almost like saw blade mark when cutting the 4x4 material. The 1x4 material is even rough.

We are using a FS Tool L06450 18"X120t ATB blade,

ITEMS DONE TO TRY AND FIX SOLUTION
1)We have checked and replace the 18" with 2 others
2) checked the collars that hold the blade in place to make sure there were no dings or anything to make the blade wobble.
3) Replaced the belts between the motor pully and saw blade pully

The bottom pic of the 1x4, the left side is how the cut use to look and took the stamp and as you can see on the right as well as both the 4x4 pics the wood look and feels rough. Which causes the stamp not to be easily readable.

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5/30/24 #3: Upcut saw leaving rough ends when c ...

Bill Stanisci

Did you check the blade's squareness to the fence and how perpendicular it is to the table? Our upcut saw has very precise adjustments for this. I would also check the runout of the blade/arbor system.

Good luck.

5/31/24 #5: Upcut saw leaving rough ends when c ...

Owen Beniek

Member

Hi Bill,

Thank you for your suggestions, We check the squareness of the fence to the blade yesterday, and both the tigerstop fence push system and the fence system was off less then 1/8".

Do you happen to know what is recommended for saw blades on cross-cutting pine? The place we bought the last 4 blades from said we needed the 18" ATB 120 tooth blade.

But the current company that we switched to is saying we should be using a 90 tooth blade. The12" miter saw that we have has a 60 tooth blade in it and it cuts a lot smoother cut then the 120 tooth in the upcut saw even though it has less teeth.

Thank you.

6/1/24 #6: Upcut saw leaving rough ends when c ...

Dustin Orth

Member

What moisture content is that material when you are cutting it? Kind of looks like the winter wood is raised quite a bit from the summer growth. How fast is you cycle speed? Not the blade rpm, but how fast is the saw going thru the material.

6/4/24 #7: Upcut saw leaving rough ends when c ...

Jamie Hughes

100% check the stroke speed. We use many whirlwind brand upcut saws, and if we get cuts like that and the blade isn't trashed it's almost always the speed at which the blade is being pushed through the material has drifted and is too high.

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