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4 head 226 Mattison moulder

3/9/19       
Dave Byers Member

Website: http://www.oneofakindcw.com

Seeking a user manual and parts manual for a 226 Mattison 4 head moulder with tilting side heads.

Also is there anyone close to Vancouver Island with experience on this machine that I could hire to assist me in setting it up?


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3/9/19       #2: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
Fred

Website: http://www.rivercity.ca

Hi Dave,
looks like you need somebody that has worked a lot on old mill planers and matchers. Out here in BC I took a class some 20 years ago with Perry Taylor.
He used to teach the planer mill program in Cranbrook and then moved on to the program the North Cariboo.
I think he can be reached at PTaylor@AULindustrialRepairs.com.
He also should be able to connect you with others in the Industry.

Good Luck,
Fred F,

3/10/19       #3: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
Joe Calhoon  Member

You can also try posting this on the OWWM forum. Lot of people there knowledgeable about old iron.

Fred, I like your work and website!
Especially the part about “Good is not Cheap”

3/12/19       #4: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
David R Sochar Member

I ran a couple molders like those many years ago. As I recall, a 5 lb hammer was a key adjustment tool.

At one place, we had a 12" Mattison with a frequency changer that spun the heads around 8,000 rpm. It could shake the fillings out of your teeth, I am sure. I refused to run it on safety conditions. We replaced it with a 24" Panhiero that did not require a 5 lb hammer, but still required many adjustments.

Then the 5 head Weinig arrived, and the world became a lovely place.... On my own, I bought a Weinig Quattromat that was also the nicest thing on the planet. The old local stickers all went some years ago for the price of iron on that day.

3/12/19       #5: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
Dave Byers Member

Website: http://www.oneofakindcw.com

Hi
Thanks for the reply - I will purchase the 5 pound hammer if someone that understands the machine can help me get it set up to power up. I am willing to pay for this help.

Dave

3/29/19       #6: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
am

Wow, you have a project. My first moulder was an old Stetson Ross that I tore down and reassembled not because I wanted to but because the pine pitch was inches thick all over everything. I self taught myself how to run it but the day I replaced it with a modern 5 head euro moulder I couldn't dump that thing quick enough.

The best resource if you have no moulder experience is a book called "woodworking and knife grinding" by Moffet if you can still find them. Very old but really explains what the knives should be doing and more importantly what they shouldn't. I can't tell from the pictures but if it's a jointed head machine (I think I see outboard bearings) you just added a whole new level of difficulty. I'll scour my records but I believe all my Mattision stuff is gone.

3/29/19       #7: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
Fred Frehner

Hi Dave,

If you can't find the book i have one.
We got a newer moulder so i rarely look at it.
If needed i can mail it to you.Like to get it back after a few week,as there a moments i can use it for reference.
Did you talk to Perry Taylor about this moulder?

Fred F.

7/28/19       #8: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
charles

Advice that a 226 requires a 5lb hammer to adjust isn't overly accurate. There are operators who don't understand the machine and will use what means and methods to adjust as needed. If the machine is out of adjustment, and maintenance doesn't know how or doesn't keep the machine in proper condition then adjustments become difficult. Its a down hill slope as soon as guys start adjusting with a hammer.
The 226 is nearly a 6 ton beast, if its vibrating , there is a big problem. That's either tooling issues, a bent spindle, outboard bearing or main bearings or a combination of these.
The 226 will make mouldings you cant do with a typical Weinig or the lightweight Quattromat. Depending on the product, the Mattison may be in your favor. S4S or simple mouldings, its not the best machine , but it can be done on them.
Also , you can get almost 13" width out of the 226.
Depending on the condition of the machine and your product, it could be a good fit.

7/28/19       #9: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
Dave Byers Member

Website: http://www.oneofakindcw.com

Thanks for all the replies

I was able to get this set up and we ran our first 2 runs of insulated logs. Yes, insulated logs

We build cedar yurts and stand the logs vertical so by having tilting side heads we can use the same triple T & G knives for all different diameters

It took a but to get everything aligned but this machine is a great machine

I am going to bypass the feed rollers by installing 2 sets of self feed rollers

And no hammer so far lol

2/28/23       #11: 4 head 226 Mattison moulder ...
George Martin

Hi Dave,
Did you ever find an owners manual for the 226?

 

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