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Weinig molders and carbide insert tooling

10/15/15       
scott Member

Is there any reason not to use carbide insert tooling for molding run on a Weinig?

For precision fit profiles like T&G flooring and cope and stick joints we have used precision made custom insert tooling on our shapers and CNC router (go Vortex Tooling!).

Does the angle need to be different for a 5 head molder than what is typical for a shaper or CNC cutter?

10/17/15       #2: Weinig molders and carbide insert t ...
Russ

Website: http://www.mr-moulding-knives.com

Typical cutter head hook angles on a Weinig moulder are either 12 or 20 degree. That is not written in stone, try what you already have first before spending lots of money on custom tooling, if you're pleased with the results then you saved from spending money unnecessarily.

PS. Listen to the people in the above post, get some good training from somebody who knows your machinery, I have some great contacts if you're interested in having a professional train you, my contact information is on my website.

Good luck,

10/17/15       #3: Weinig molders and carbide insert t ...
Russ

Whoops--That should read

PS. Listen to the people in the below post from a few days ago, get some good training from somebody who knows your machinery, I have some great contacts if you're interested in having a professional train you, my contact information is on my website.

10/21/15       #4: Weinig molders and carbide insert t ...
Dr. David Rankin

I would consider custom inserts tools for many profiles. The use of shear in the tools can also provide you a longer lasting tool and improved finish.

Be Safe,

Dr. David Rankin

10/22/15       #5: Weinig molders and carbide insert t ...
scott Member

Thanks for the input. More questions for y'all. We pretty much only do hardwoods - Walnut, Cherry, Oak and some alder on occasion, may get into a bit of German Beech.

1. how many degrees of shear?
2. how many knives - 2, 3, 4 are optimal
3. crazy idea, what about 4 knives w shear up on 2 and shear down on 2 - sort of like a compression bit - would that give a better finish or would that be impossible to get the two sets to match?
4. Who out there has the best value for custom weinig insert tooling?
5. What about standard insert tooling - we are looking for a good T&G flooring set.

10/23/15       #6: Weinig molders and carbide insert t ...
Russ

Website: http://www.mr-moulding-knives.com

Ok, I will try and answer, but remember it's only my opinion.
1 - Dave would know more about shear cutting than I would, they do work well for a few clients of mine that have that type of tooling.
2 - 2 knives are optimal because of bore tolerance (single knife finish) don't waste your money on excess tooling.
3 - Try not to make things too complex, answer # 2 comes into play here
4 - Many companies offer great quality tooling out there, you will have to do your homework on this one and go with the one you feel the most comfortable with.
5 - Refer to above answer, I don't want to be bias.
I hope that helps somewhat
Have a great weekend, and good luck in your new venture.


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