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Edge feeder not working on Holtzher Sprint 1310-1

12/1/24       
TP Member

Hi There

This is my first post on this forum. Very grateful to find this industry resource.

I cannot work out why my edge feed is not working anymore on my 2003 Sprint 1310-1. The pressure roller is working but not the electric motor belt feed. The screen does say that it is on.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


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12/1/24       #3: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
Jim Herron

Check that you don't have a piece of banding obstructing the eye that triggers the actuation of belt that advances the edging
Past that you might check the sensitivity setting on the eye itself
Next step the timer inside the machine that receives signal from the eye.
Might check with your service technician.
I have received very good service from Bayside Industrial on both technical support and parts.

12/1/24       #4: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
Jim Herron

You may possibly have a missing or damaged reflective target that detects when edging is not present in the strip or roll gate
Problem is most often simply a snip of edge tape or glue blocking the eye, so I'd start there
Eliminate the simple answers first

12/2/24       #5: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
TP Member

Thank you Jim.

I just had a look and the sensor light(eye) is always on. Even if I put some tape in front. For some reason when the machine is running if I put my finger on top of the eye adj screw it turns the light off and the tape will advance after edging a piece.

12/2/24       #6: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
Jim Herron

You can adjust the sensitivity with said screw.
I adjusted mine, but did wind up replacing it for one that detects black/dark colored edgebanding
Bayside Industrial has them and helpful on phone with install

12/2/24       #7: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
TP Member

Hi Jim

Success! I adjusted the screw back and forwards and finally got it to turn off when there was tape present. I should get a little bit of nail polish or something to paint on so it doesn't vibrate out of adjustment again.

Thanks so much for the advice. You have taken a lot of pressure off me.

Cheers.

12/3/24       #8: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
Jim Herron

Glad to help.
I wouldn't get too hasty immobilizing the adjustment screw.
The eye simply loses sensitivity over time and will likely need a tweak down the road

12/3/24       #9: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
Rich

When we had a Holtzher bander we replaced that eye with one that required a reflector making it work much better especially if you use dark color edges.

We got replacement sensors from Automation Direct it was a quick easy fix that resolved our issues with using dark colors. See page 2 for description of different types of sensors.

https://cdn.automationdirect.com/static/catalog/images/product-pdf/PH-
Photo-Sensors-Overview.pdf

12/4/24       #10: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
TP Member

Thank you Rich. Great idea. The sensors I saw on the website are much bigger. Was this a problem?

Also I have another problem with the 1310-1.

The control screen has lines missing which makes it hard to read the numbers.
I sent an enquiry to my Holtzher spare parts supplier here in Australia and they said they were told that Holtzher is not repairing or replacing them for this model anymore. He did say that he would pass on my request to them but indicated it probably wouldn’t go any further. I have seen on YouTube people fixing these. Has any one got any other ideas that I may pursue?


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12/4/24       #11: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
Jim Herron

When i was looking at purchasing a later model bander, and found one that had the screen like yours, Richard, at Bayside Industrial had one on stock
The price seemed fair enough.
I wound up not buying the newer bander after all, and he help me repair my current HH

12/5/24       #12: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
TP Member

Hi Jim

What is the HH? Do you have the same edge bander as me?

12/7/24       #13: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
Jim Herron

I have a Holz Her (HH) 1435SE
I was going to buy a later model but my machine tech told me I should stay with my analog edge bander as long as I could keep it running. When a PLC control takes a dump your fixing to outlay some $$ to get back running.
I bought a mostly complete parts machine a few years back for 250.00 and have a lot of parts like spare trimmer motors, some pneumatic fittings, and copy wheels, cannibalized for backup, and sold the frame and stuff for scrap.
I stick with Bayside on the electric components because he knows the troubleshooting and is fair on the parts I've needed.
It is in good shape and currently running great. It does what I need to do, mostly .5 or 1 mil wood with the occasional pvc thrown in.
Lee Johnson used to help me troubleshoot over the phone and supply parts. Good guy that could explain things well over the phone.
Richard at Bayside Industrial took over after he passed away.
Both know these machines very well.

12/7/24       #14: Edge feeder not working on Holtzher ...
TP Member

Hi Jim

Richard said he has a new screen to sell me which is fantastic news. Thank you for the lead.

 

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