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Negatives about these CNC brands

10/6/15       
David Smith  Member

Website: http://www.crowescabinets.com

I know there are threads out there of people searching for a CNC, I have done some looking around but i cannot find too much of what I am looking for. So we all know there are some great manufacturers of CNC equipment out there and it's very hard to choose which one to go with. So really, the question I really need answered is "What things are you unhappy with in regards to your CNC?" Whether it be service and support, features, how many times it goes down, etc. And another important question, would you buy it again (or another one of the same make) or recommend that someone else buy it? We are looking at the following brands and would like to hear your feedback: Multicam, Onsrud, Omnitech, and Morbidelli.

Thank you for your time.

10/7/15       #2: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
james mcgrew Member

It would be a great thing if there was an easy catch all do all for this, I know owners of each brand you mentioned who like their machines. they are some fickle things and probably none has not had a glitch at one time or another. that said I have seen little to no out right failures,

There is no substitute for LOTS of due diligence, asking these questions is part of that, I am sure you have seen the suggestions, "Go see the plants that build them" "go see them in shops that use them the way you will" Buy your second machine first" "Don't squint and think work arounds will always work" Make friends who may own a machine you may purchase. CNC is somewhat complex but not impossible there is a lot more needed even after purchase. software and learning curves can be an itch, There are soo many choices there is one for what you need. again go see them in shops at every opportunity, Most everyone I know is very enthused to show them as most of Us are still amazed we can actually do this . I hope this helps

10/7/15       #3: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
Bob Lewis

Have had an Omnitech for about 7 years, doesn't get worked as hard as it should but has been a great machine.
Never had a service tech on site.
Have called the dealer a few times and have usually resolved the problems on the phone.
Once or twice have had to have a sensor shipped overnight.

10/8/15       #4: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
Edward Forer

I own 3 different biesse machines and 2 Multi-cams. Our oldest Multi-cam is a dinosaur and isn't even relevant in this conversation. Our newer machine is an 06 MG series servo machine with all the bells and whistles EXCEPT a drill block (really wish it had that). It doesn't do all the cool stuff we can do on the Biesse's but we do pretty much all are prototyping on it and it is far and away the most reliable machine we have because it is very simple. I would buy another, especially with a drill block, in a heartbeat if the price were right.

10/8/15       #5: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
David Smith  Member

Website: http://www.crowescabinets.com

Biesse is actually back in the game now, they happened to stop by today and gave us a presentation and we liked what we saw. Since you have a few, do you have any comments on the machines?

10/8/15       #6: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
james mcgrew Member

If you have been doing that good looking work on your website without a cnc,, then you are gonna love a cnc

10/8/15       #7: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
David Smith  Member

Website: http://www.crowescabinets.com

Thanks james, we actually do have a cnc but it is only a point to point machine....

10/11/15       #8: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
Derrek

I have a Biesse Rover B. In 10 years we have had no major problems, tech support and parts has been awesome. They have some great new machines and what you get for the money these days is great. I have a 12 spindle drill block and 10 position tool changer. I would like a bigger drill block for the work we do. I'm looking to replace my existing machine for one of their new auto load unload machine

10/12/15       #9: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
cabinetmaker

We also have a Biesse router. 40HP vac pump and drill block. Been great,very reliable and no issues. We have a routine maint program in place that includes removing covers and checking wires that take a lot of abuse. 20 minutes a week.

10/12/15       #10: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
Phill

Two Biesse Rover B's here. Outstanding machines and support. Highly recommend looking at them.

10/18/15       #11: Negatives about these CNC brands ...
David Smith  Member

Website: http://www.crowescabinets.com

Well, we narrowed our search down to the Morbidelli m400 Full Cell flat table and the Biesse Rover BG Full Cell flat table. Both 5x12 tables. If you search for the morbidelli more than likely you wont find too much on it. Its been out for a few years but they have not put it on their website yet. You can however find a m400 pod and rail machine but its a different beast.

Anyone have any comments on these machines or brands? No matter who we go with we feel like we are getting a top of the line machjne designed to do exactly what we want. So the decision is going to come down to minor stuff and price.

Any feedback would be helpful.

We also looked at a Anderson/Omnitech. When you look at this brand it looks like you are looking at a honda civic. When you look at the biesse and morbidelli, it looks like your looking at a porsche. The features and how its built just does not appear to be in the same class.

 

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